Sully, we discussed almost the identical topic last March: Not-so-old thread with the clarification that "best" meant best-looking. Further discussion welcome, of course, as is further clarification of "best".
Even thought it has been in another thread AND may be an oxymoron - depending on the definition here for "best;" I still would like to put in two cents about a nice little mountain cirque that I think would be great!
The Baldface Range in the Whites. You've got South and North Baldface, which is basically one mountain with two disctintive peaks. The elevation is below 4000, but the vert would be descent. There are mutliple faces, ravines, snowfields, and steeps. There are multiple water sources and it's very close to North Conway.
Of course, a off-shoot of the AT runs all over it, but that's why this isn't real!
I don't know how to use the terraserver or how to save an image of Google Earth, but I bet it looks pretty good from both. I haven't looked - only hiked for years. I even know some folks who have skied in good snow years.
Jerry
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[quote]What is the best mountain with no ski area?
Isn't this question an oxymoron?[/quote]
no, it is not. mount washington for new hampshire. camel's hump for VT sounds about right though i have no first hand knowledge.
no, it is not. mount washington for new hampshire. camel's hump for VT sounds about right though i have no first hand knowledge.
My ski area guides from the 1970's all list Tuckerman Ravine (Mt. Washington) as a ski area. The two major reliable voices that we can now expect to hear from are ThatNYGuy (Russ) saying it's a place to ski (not a ski area) and NELSAP (Jeremy) who has given a special exemption to Tuckerman.
i think by definition a ski area is a involves an operation and not an area that is strictly backcountry, which mount washington is, with no access except for self propulsion. any mountain could be considered a "ski area" if someone need only ski it to be valid consideration. it is the difference between a "ski" & "area" versus a "ski area".
i think by definition a ski area is a involves an operation and not an area that is strictly backcountry, which mount washington is, with no access except for self propulsion. any mountain could be considered a "ski area" if someone need only ski it to be valid consideration. it is the difference between a "ski" & "area" versus a "ski area".
i think by definition a ski area is a involves an operation and not an area that is strictly backcountry, which mount washington is, with no access except for self propulsion. any mountain could be considered a "ski area" if someone need only ski it to be valid consideration. it is the difference between a "ski" & "area" versus a "ski area".
So then wouldn't the operation of the cog railway, the snowmaking, and grooming on the two trails that follow along the tracks, be considered an operation?
It seems that Mount Washington has two recognized ski areas - one of which has a lift.
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bah, jerry--you have me there. i always forget that the cog offers skiing. i withdraw my submission of big george. perhaps moosilauke or cardigan would be better suggestions for best mountain in NH without a ski area.
Mt. Equinox offers a great variety of routes and already has a ski village at the base.(Manchester) I skiied both the Hump and Equinox, by far the best in Vt.( Don't forget the shoulder off Little Jay, kind of already a resort though) I hope neither ever get developed.
I always liked the look of North Twin Mountain in New Hampshire.
That's a good one. Whenever I drive from Franconia Notch to Crawford Notch I like to look up while trying to not go off the road. It's one big hill!
How about Carter dome in NH and Old Speck in Maine? (While forgetting about the AT running all over the place.)
Old Speck could be sort of like a little version of Heavenly with a base area in two states and A LOT more vert than nerby SR. PLus it would have an on-mountain snowmaking pond.
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With really only knoing the mountains of NH, ME, and part of VT, my overall choice would be one that was before and then shot down by a state-wide referendum in the late 70's.
Given that I was only 4 when this vote was put to the voters, I don't know too much about it, but I'm sure that there are some folks on here that remember when The Bigalow Range was to be developed into a massive ski resort. It would have indeed been impressive.
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We should thank the Maine voters for their good sense. In hindsight it's clear that the market couldn't sustain another big resort in the same area as Sugarloaf. And Bigelow is certainly a splendid hike!