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Jonni
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Posted: Jun 10, 2006 - 12:36 PM GMT

Since the summer duldrums are beginning to set in, and we are all working on our 16th inch of rain in the past month, I figured that we could look at a somewhat lighter note. What is your favorite lift manufacturer? This can be a current manufacturer or out-of-business/merged manufacturer.

My favorite(s) would have to be Poma. They have a pretty good design asthetically as well as very comfortable chairs on their newer lifts. Others of notable mention for me would be Hall (for obvious reasons) and Yan. You may gasp a little bit at that idea, but Yan came up with a lot of the ideas that lift manufacturers use today. Their HSQs really were all that great, but many of Yan's Fixed Grips are still in operation today.



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Posted: Jun 10, 2006 - 1:04 PM GMT

Doppelmayr gets my vote. I find they are the most comfortable and my favorite ski areas tend to feature these lifts. Carlevaro-Savio for their gondolas. Wildcat's gondi being legendary and beyond repute I love Riblet's too, but they are a rare breed these days. I rode Stowe's Lookout Double for the first time this season which was a treat.

I find Poma's to be the most uncomfortable with their upright backs and narrowness across, especially older Poma triples such as Lynx Chair at Bush and all the triples at Haystack... some of my least favorite lifts, those triples. I also find Yan rather uncomfortable, so Jonni and I have differing tastes in chairlifts. But we both love a good Hall surface lift!

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Posted: Jun 10, 2006 - 2:43 PM GMT

I agree with the above about the older Poma chairlifts being uncomfortable, riding the Sun Bowl lift at Sunapee (1987 Poma FGQ) is quite uncomfortable. But any Poma chairlift with the new Omega style carriers is nice. Dopp has some nice chairs too, but I don't really go for the Dopp/CTEC combination chair with the metal back all that much.

As far as Yan goes, I don't really like the company but I salute them for the technological advances they made in the lift industry. Here's a list of some of the things that Yan came up with:

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Simple tower foundation – no bolts or welds
24" Tower diameter
Tower derail locator card inside of crossarm
Easy to use sheave assembly adjustment bolts
Chromed sheave assembly axels
Turcite bushings on grips and assemblies
Large and standard (same) size sheave assembly adjustment bolts
Stirrups on crossarm
Attachment holes for lifting frame on stirrups
Aluminum lifting frame
Dust and grease seals that actually worked on line sheaves
Sheaves designed with a flange to capture wandering haulrope
Turcite bushings on grips and assemblies
Tower sheave loading that was predictable and reacted well to wind
No maintenance tower numbers
Little or no carriage movement on medium sized lift – due to adequate number of towers
Easy to relocate grips
Grips that slipped rather than ejected from the haulrope – I don’t recall one incident yet Riblet has at least 3 per year to this day.
Center of gravity on carrier was low (less swing in wind).
Bullwheels that did not need chair guides
Motor rooms rather than machinery cabinets
Lifting beams incorporated into motor room design
Drive and return terminals that did not flex, sway, bend, jiggle, lean, or twist
Drive and return terminals that were height adjustable and still had the same characteristics as the above
Return terminal bullwheel bearings that lasted more than 5 years
Drop light in motor room
Motor room doors that provided adequate ventilation
Roof drainage system
Internal gearbox rollback was standard – I don’t recall a rollback on any lift
First to widely use pneumatic or hydraulic rams for tension systems
Was the first to start using integrated planetary gearbox
Service brake is easy to adjust
Bullwheel flange brake is easy to adjust and actually works
Bullwheel dog brake was about as simple as you could get
Easy to read, determine, access, and bypass control circuits
Easy to read electrical schematics
Liked flat black paint

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Posted: Jun 10, 2006 - 5:26 PM GMT

I like Dopplemayrs and Pomas. I also like YAN just because they are so reconizable.
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Posted: Jun 10, 2006 - 7:16 PM GMT

For new lifts, I like DoppelmayrCTEC, they just seem solid and simple. I also like the classic center pole Riblet doubles. They are everywhere out West, but disappearing fast.
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Posted: Jun 10, 2006 - 10:25 PM GMT

The older Pomas are not as comfortable. The GMX or the new Sherburne Express at Burke is a nice ride. Yans are cool, but I really don't dig the fluted seat backs, especially when riding solo. Halls are nice lifts, but again, the seats on the older Doubles are uncomfortable if riding solo in the middle of the chair.

CTEC's are nice chairs.
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Posted: Jun 10, 2006 - 10:46 PM GMT

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The older Pomas are not as comfortable. The GMX or the new Sherburne Express at Burke is a nice ride. Yans are cool, but I really don't dig the fluted seat backs, especially when riding solo. Halls are nice lifts, but again, the seats on the older Doubles are uncomfortable if riding solo in the middle of the chair.

CTEC's are nice chairs.


Yeah I agree. In terms of favorite chair manufacturer, CTEC gets my vote.
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Posted: Jun 11, 2006 - 4:08 AM GMT

I don't think I can state my actual opinion now that we are a real museum! But as far as innnovations consistanly over the years I have been a huge POMA fan since a kid. Doppelmayr delivers a top rate quality product consistantly. CTEC and Yan chairs are really comfortable for those with fear of heights as they provide a deep seat. Hall has proved to be the longest lasting dependable design with 30 year old lifts still being re-installed today. Coolest looking gondolas goes to Carlevaro-savio. It is ashame that there is such a consolidation of manufacturers today as I feel it will lessen the competition in the marketplace, thus lessen innovtation. Than again we don't have the demand that existed in the 1960's.

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Posted: Jun 12, 2006 - 2:40 AM GMT

Hall. WHat can I say?

2nd palce to Riblet for the center pole designs, Mueller for the errector set towers (Highmont: Rust in Peices).

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Posted: Jun 12, 2006 - 12:38 PM GMT
Edited: Jun 12, 2006 - 3:32 PM GMT

Hall all the way.. Something tells me I love their lifts because I grew up skiing at Smuggs.....

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Posted: Jun 12, 2006 - 2:09 PM GMT

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Hall all the day.. Something tells me I love their lifts because I grew up skiing at Smuggs.....

dave


Hall for me. I am impressed by the engineering of the chairs, the towers - everything. I just feel more comfortable and secure in a Hall double. And the chairs aren't too deep or too wide for little kids, like so many modern lifts. From my youth at (all-Hall) Loon and (no longer there - Summit and lower mountain Hall doubles) Burke to my last days this season at Smuggs, they have been my favorite to ride. Picture.

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