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mmqb Profile \| Galleries Rank: Member Since: May 11, 2004 Posts: 5641 Location:	Posted: Feb 12, 2006 - 12:56 PM GMT Quote: Sorry France, Sorry, it's Dom Perignon!!! Viva Francias....

mmqb Profile \| Galleries Rank: Member Since: May 11, 2004 Posts: 5641 Location:	Posted: Feb 12, 2006 - 12:58 PM GMT Quote: Still Unoffical: #1. GOLD. DENERIAZ Antoine FRA 1 1:48.80 0.00 #2.SILVER. WALCHHOFER Michael AUT 2 1:49.52 +0.72 #3. BRONZE. KERNEN Bruno SUI 3 1:49.82 +1.02 Ciao.

mmqb Profile \| Galleries Rank: Member Since: May 11, 2004 Posts: 5641 Location:	Posted: Feb 12, 2006 - 7:38 PM GMT Quote: A Big Thank You to Bode, Daron, Scott, Steve and Marco and John McBride and his staff. I'm sure the post competition tension is starting to set in and in time you will start to heal. You gave a big effort today, years of training and recover, international travel, injury, time away from family and friends, not easy. We do appreciate your efforts and best of luck the next two weeks and take some time to enjoy the Games. The USA ski fans appreciate your efforts and hard work. MMQB

mmqb Profile \| Galleries Rank: Member Since: May 11, 2004 Posts: 5641 Location:	Posted: Feb 12, 2006 - 7:40 PM GMT GOLD!!! FRANCE......

mmqb Profile \| Galleries Rank: Member Since: May 11, 2004 Posts: 5641 Location:	Posted: Feb 12, 2006 - 8:21 PM GMT Bode and Daron A Tad Slow in Olympic DH

songfta Profile \| Galleries Rank: Member Since: Jan 14, 2004 Posts: 564 Location:Washington, DC	Posted: Feb 13, 2006 - 4:29 AM GMT Edited: Feb 13, 2006 - 4:31 AM GMT The coverage from SkiRacing.com: DENERIAZ WINS DOWNHILL IN A STUNNER; MILLER 5TH Deneriaz was determined to emerge a champion Rahlves switches off experimental skis 1:45 before run My $0.02 regarding the race: Daron was a bundle of nerves today, and the last-minute switch of skis didn't help one iota. I think he tried too hard to stay on a perfect line, so he over-skied the course: too precise, not letting his skis run. That's what I saw in Deneriaz and Walchhofer: they simply let their skis run. They skied loose, throwing all caution to the wind. If not for the skid-out that Deneriaz had a couple of turns before the Angel Jump, he probably would've won by 1.0-1.2 seconds. Bode skied really well, but seemed a bit passive for him. He described being "too far forward" on his skis in the turns today, and it showed: no "oomph" coming out of the turns. Bode had nothing to be ashamed of, but it wasn't his best run. He was right: Deneriaz was on another planet today. And with both Bode and Daron: their tech didn't nail the wax and base structure today. Not that it was bad - Bode had fast splits until the last jump - but the skis weren't running. But Atomic had the hot hand again: 1-2-5-6-10, which isn't bad at all. __________ Track my adventures at randomduck.com

intlski Profile \| Galleries Rank: Member Since: Jan 16, 2004 Posts: 205 Location:	Posted: Feb 13, 2006 - 5:39 AM GMT Edited: Feb 14, 2006 - 3:53 PM GMT Quote: My 2 cents. Bode was flying, a little surprised at times, standing high on his skis, adjusting to the speed, when he needed to be in a tuck. The skis were fast. He is a talent who turns better than most on the DH circuit. The speed technique will come in time and with training and more strength. RAW TALENT. Daron was my choice for the Gold today. I have several questions and it starts with the front office of the U.S. Ski Team, administration and coaching or lack of. First off, he should not have been thinking about ski selection 2 min. prior to leaving the start area! This is another classic example of poor coaching and lack of preparation by the U.S. Ski Team. Atomic, a great ski company with a great racing history located in Austria. Finnish owned, based in Austria, Austrian Service Reps!!! On the Austrian Ski Team, S.W.O.T. Chart, Under T, was the USA X 2 (aka Bode & Daron); introduction of new Atomic DH skis 24 hours prior to the start of the Olympic DH would have me asking big questions??? WHY NOW? The Austrian Ski Team is not the "Best in The World", because they filmed the Sound of Music in Austria!!! How in the hell did the Administration and Coaching staff of the U.S. Ski Team allow this to happen? I hope the Trustees of the US Ski Team and the US Olympic Committee ask the same questions. Did Austria out coach us today? Daron is a pro and he handled it like a pro. He was ready, his organization was not. The US Ski Team is in need of major change and it should start at the top. Daron and Bode your efforts were noted and the nation says thank you. In closing, the objective was to medal today, top three. I want you to revisit the split times from training and study the section times; I think you made a big mistake with Marco Sullivan being left off the starting team. If he was with the Austrian Ski Team, he would have started. Atomic, Atomic, Rossignol, Gold, Silver, Bronze. Today was Classic French Finesse vs. The Big Red Machine (Austria). The only option to beat well organized, well coached, powerful programs is Finesse Skiing and did it show through today with, Antoine DENERIAZ, FFS National Ski Team in Annecy, France, (Home of Salomon), SOLID TECHNIQUE!!!

songfta Profile \| Galleries Rank: Member Since: Jan 14, 2004 Posts: 564 Location:Washington, DC	Posted: Feb 13, 2006 - 6:25 AM GMT Edited: Feb 13, 2006 - 6:28 AM GMT Quote: Daron was my choice for the Gold today. Bode was my choice (see my prognostications for the games here). Quote: Daron is a pro and he handled it like a pro. He was ready, his organization was not. The US Ski Team is in need of major change and it should start at the top. In the aftermath, yes, he handled it like a pro. But the fact that he even considered making the ski switch showed apprehension on his part. The skis he kicked butt on on Thursday weren't even on the hill with him - he should've been on those skis and should've just let it hang out like he did on Thursday. His subsequent runs seemed too much like he was trying to recapture "the run." Technically, you couldn't fault his skiing in either Saturday's or Sunday's runs, but he just didn't let it all hang out, on the edge, on the race run. Sure, he was talking the talk afterward, but his skiing showed a bit of hesitation, and he looked a little too contained to be in contention. Contrast his skiing to Bode's, and there was a clear difference. Bode was letting it hang out (fast splits on top and before the final jump), but he wasn't letting the turns go enough to carry that speed. Granted, he was only 0.11 out of bronze, so he had fast skis (kinda negates my criticism of his ski techs); but he just wasn't "on" today in the turns, where the race was won by Deneriaz (and where Walchhofer made up for his wild airtime on the Angel Jump). Quote: Daron and Bode your efforts were noted and the nation says thank you. Agreed and seconded! Same goes to Steve Nyman and Scott McCartney. Quote: In closing, the objective was to medal today, top three. I want you to revisit the split times from training and study the section times; I think you made a big mistake with Marco Sullivan being left off the starting team. If he was with the Austrian Ski Team, he would have started. Yeah, but I still would've gone with Mac over Sully. In the two training runs, Sully looked stiff and hesitant. He wasn't absorbing the bumps in the turns enough to make it worthwhile to start him. Although Mac wasn't markedly faster, he was handling the turns better, and the turns are what won the race on this course. 20/20 hindsight, I still would've started Mac. I think that the area where the U.S. coaching staff didn't help was in letting Daron get too wound up in things. They've seen this with him before in big events, and while Daron may be a seasoned athlete, it seems that they didn't read him well enough. That said, today's result from Rahlves was a case of Daron being his own worst enemy. Even if he'd had skis as fast as Bode, Walchhofer or Deneriaz, his skiing was too conservative, too precise to allow a win. Good dialogue here! Anyone else care to chime in? __________ Track my adventures at randomduck.com

elhombredeski Profile \| Galleries Rank: Member Since: Nov 12, 2004 Posts: 271 Location:	Posted: Feb 13, 2006 - 6:43 AM GMT Quote: Bravo Swiss Ski - Great To See You Back In The Medals Game.

songfta Profile \| Galleries Rank: Member Since: Jan 14, 2004 Posts: 564 Location:Washington, DC	Posted: Feb 13, 2006 - 6:49 AM GMT More discussion fodder: Looking at the splits for today's race: Bode was really fast on the top and slow from about mid-course down. He had the fastest speed at the top trap, and the 30th fastest at the lower trap. Bode was gaining time until split 4 (interval splits that were 10th, 6th and 2nd fastest), then lost tons of time in the lower section (25th [I4-I5] and 26th [I5-finish] fastest), where the finessing the turns was the key to maintaining (and gaining) speed (flatter terrain, non-injected snow). Looking at Daron, he was slow up top (29th fastest from I1 to I2), then started to make up time (11th, 12th, 1st and 8th in the next three subsections), then scrubbed speed in the last stretch. But the damage had been done up top, which was the section of the course that Daron had to ace in order to win. He had to kill 'em on the top steeps and carry that speed down below - something he didn't accomplish. -- --- -- --- -- --- -- --- -- --- -- --- And in the performance-of-the-day category, while Deneriaz has a good case to make, there is an equally good case for Patrick Staudacher of Italy, who came into the race with 18.87 FIS points (over 13 points higher than the others in the top 10) and finished between racers with 1.34 (Strobl) and 1.41 (Rahlves) FIS points - not a bad showing, and it shows what letting it all hang out can do for a racer. Staudacher had the second-fastest split between I5 and the finish, so his skis were running really well on the bottom of the course. __________ Track my adventures at randomduck.com

mmqb Profile \| Galleries Rank: Member Since: May 11, 2004 Posts: 5641 Location:	Posted: Feb 13, 2006 - 3:54 PM GMT Chicago Boys Take A Shot.

mmqb Profile \| Galleries Rank: Member Since: May 11, 2004 Posts: 5641 Location:	Posted: Feb 13, 2006 - 4:44 PM GMT Alpine Canada Alpin DH Wrap.

songfta Profile \| Galleries Rank: Member Since: Jan 14, 2004 Posts: 564 Location:Washington, DC	Posted: Feb 13, 2006 - 10:01 PM GMT More on the new cap-top Atomic DH skis: Tech: Rahlves switched skis just before run (NBCOlympics.com) __________ Track my adventures at randomduck.com

mapnut Profile \| Galleries Rank: Member Since: Jul 31, 2002 Posts: 5062 Location:New York City	Posted: Feb 14, 2006 - 1:15 PM GMT 2,998 vertical feet in 1:49. Yikes.

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