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PistePipe Profile \| Galleries Rank: Member Since: Nov 09, 2003 Posts: 78 Location:	Posted: Nov 13, 2005 - 9:21 PM GMT I saw it last night in Albany and generally wasn't impressed. Too much advertising and Navy recruitment for me. Also, I noticed that Warren seems to be narating his films less and less each year. It's understandable as he's getting older and would likely want to pass the business on. It does take the "warren miller film" out of the film though... On the plus side, they did show Hunter mtn for a bit...that was neat to see. And the guy in the flying squirel suit impressed me once again. Anyone else catch it? What were your thoughts? - Jim

riverc0il Profile \| Galleries Rank: Member Since: Jan 05, 2002 Posts: 3185 Location:Ashland, NH	Posted: Nov 13, 2005 - 10:28 PM GMT Quote: It's understandable as he's getting older and would likely want to pass the business on. It does take the "warren miller film" out of the film though... he already HAS passed the business on. many years ago to his son who has subsequently sold the company (WME) to Time Warner. unconfirmed rumor has been that this year's movie actually used previous movie voice overs and WM didn't even do any narration. completely unconfirmed rumor, but i have yet to see it denied any where which i think lends some credibility to it. i have given up on warren miller entertainment. warren had a good thing going. he should have ended his business instead of passing it on. or he should of at least retained veto rights or something. i don't think selling the company to Time Warren was a very smart move on his son's part. the distribution and Hi-Def might be cool, but i think a lot of the substance of older movies of WM is gone, replaced by a company trying to keep up with other better movie production crews. WME is currently in the midst of an identity crisis, IMO. i saw last years film which was okay. i will lay off my gripes on that film and simply leave it at the fact that i won't pay to see warren miller movies any more. when the DVDs hit the netflix lineup, i'll probably catch them the following year and skip over all the lame non-skiing and advertising scenes (argueably most of the movie given what they charge ski areas for filming rights or what ever). hey, here's an idea i have been advocating a lot this year! check out a really cool new england movie production crew that films at places we can all actually relate too! good movies too! 1% of the budget and still more interesting and entertaining than the recent warren miller movies! http://www.meatheadfilms.com/ __________ TheSnowWay.com

skibachelor Profile \| Galleries Rank: Member Since: Nov 02, 2002 Posts: 620 Location:	Posted: Nov 14, 2005 - 5:28 PM GMT I saw the movie about 3 weeks ago and like you guys, didn't enjoy it as much as some of the other recent Warren Miller flicks. However, just by going to the movie and getting the promotional items like free lift tickets is well worth it I think. I saved $240 this winter getting free lift tickets to Schweitzer, Tamarack and Meadows.

nelsap Profile \| Galleries Rank: Member Since: Nov 21, 2001 Posts: 3649 Location:Saratoga Springs, NY	Posted: Nov 14, 2005 - 6:12 PM GMT I saw it in Albany too the night you did - were you at the 6pm or 9pm? I was there at 9. Thought the product placements were overkill - the constant showing of Jeeps and zooming in on skiers eating those yummy Nature Valley Granola Bars. The free tix were great though - probably about $300 worth! Jeremy __________ Jeremy Davis

moe Profile \| Galleries Rank: Member Since: Aug 14, 2003 Posts: 538 Location:Back to MA	Posted: Nov 14, 2005 - 6:46 PM GMT A friend of mine went to see it at the Somerville Theater (in Somerville, MA), and was so dissapointed in it, he wrote a letter to Warren Miller Productions. __________ Do not drink Pepsi, do not eat M&M's, because they are the tools of Babylon.

ryderdlm Profile \| Galleries Rank: Member Since: May 25, 2004 Posts: 8 Location:	Posted: Nov 14, 2005 - 8:49 PM GMT Also so it last 9pm in Albany. Overall I think it was an ok Warren Miller film. I do miss hearing his voice more often though. Once again the flying guy was amazing. Well worth the money for ll the tickets I got!!

BeastPatroller Profile \| Galleries Rank: Member Since: Nov 18, 2003 Posts: 697 Location:Enfield, CT	Posted: Nov 14, 2005 - 9:54 PM GMT Wow! I haven't even seen the movie yet and I'm disappointed. My wife & I have been going to his movies for 26 yrs. (been married 22 yrs). We were honored one year by Warren doing the narration live at the showing. We'll still go as it's a tradition and the free lift tickets will be worth it. I do wish they would give out the door prizes they use to. Over the years I won a pair of skis (Hexcel) and a trip to Sugarloaf! __________ Ski the Beast - Berkshire East

ThatNYguy Profile \| Galleries Rank: Member Since: Sep 08, 2001 Posts: 1748 Location:Circling near Albany, NY	Posted: Nov 15, 2005 - 3:40 AM GMT I was at the 6 pm show at the Palace, Albany. Solid crowd with few empty seats. Crowd appeared to be younger. Over the years, I have seen many of these shows. This movie lacked the "Warren Miller" feel. The production seems too slick for its own good and although there were some fun moments and great views, I walked away just OK. Without the ticket give aways, this evening wouldn't have been worth it. Russ

riverc0il Profile \| Galleries Rank: Member Since: Jan 05, 2002 Posts: 3185 Location:Ashland, NH	Posted: Nov 16, 2005 - 12:29 AM GMT Quote: The production seems too slick for its own good oh man, you opened that can of worms. WME movies aside, i find many sources of media become too over produced for their own good when big corporations get their hands on great works of artistry. it's been happening for a while, but more notiable in recently years. the media giants look for stuff that is "underground" and creating a buzz, then touch it up, smooth it out, adjust the rough edges, and add a high production value to things... taking the very soul away from what made a piece artistic to begin with. movies, music, etc. any form of media really. __________ TheSnowWay.com

tommyadrian5 Profile \| Galleries Rank: Member Since: Mar 13, 2003 Posts: 563 Location:Right Behind You...	Posted: Nov 16, 2005 - 6:35 AM GMT "Hey 80's" "What 90'" "You seen that Warren Miller fella around anymore" "Nope, he tried to break into the 00's, but we both know he's stuck back with us" No offense, but warren miller stopped making good stuff a long time ago....

deane83 Profile \| Galleries Rank: Member Since: Nov 17, 2005 Posts: 1 Location:	Posted: Nov 17, 2005 - 9:45 PM GMT Thats because Warren Miller hasn't been making the movies anytime recently... He sold WME to his son Kurt in 89 and Kurt in turn sold it to Time Warner in 2000. Warren's contract for writing and doing the voices was up in Dec. 2004 and he opted not to re-up the contract so this years film had only clips of his voice from previous movies. Its kinda sad, and this years movie was dissapointing as far as a Warren Miller movie goes but it did have some good parts. Its just sad to know that the man himself is no longer involved in the process. -Dean

riverc0il Profile \| Galleries Rank: Member Since: Jan 05, 2002 Posts: 3185 Location:Ashland, NH	Posted: Nov 17, 2005 - 10:44 PM GMT Quote: Its just sad to know that the man himself is no longer involved in the process. considering the current results, i think WM not being involved still keeps the original movies he was a big part of pure. we can at least put blame where blame is due and say WME is creating crappy movies whereas WM had a lot of great stuff. the less WM was involved, the worse the movies got and that says a lot, IMO. cheers to WM for completely bailing. i had suspected as much but haven't been able to confirm it. __________ TheSnowWay.com

skibachelor Profile \| Galleries Rank: Member Since: Nov 02, 2002 Posts: 620 Location:	Posted: Nov 17, 2005 - 11:35 PM GMT You guys also have to relize that Warren Miller is getting to be pretty old now and he can't be directing and narrorating his ski films forever, so it would have been just a matter of time before WME would have ended unless the company was sold, which it was to his son Kurt. However, we all thought Kurt's narroration wasn't the best in some of the new Warren Miller movies and I believe that Warren Miller Entertainment would probably look kind of the same today if Kurt hadn't sold the company, but there probably wouldn't be all those product placement ads. The pros of having WME owned by Time Warner now is that there are a lot more sponsors now than before (I mean items like free lift tickets, not Jeep ads) and everyone gets a free subscription to Ski Magazine.

joee Profile \| Galleries Rank: Member Since: Dec 02, 2005 Posts: 1 Location:	Posted: Dec 02, 2005 - 5:02 PM GMT I saw it last night in stamford, CT. It was actually my first Warren Miller movie. All I can say is that it represents everything I HATE in life. It wasn't about skiing, it was about marketing. I felt embarrassed for the grown men who actually applauded it. If you go see this movie, be afraid. Be very afraid. I'm convinced there were people planted in the audience to hoot and howl. Free tix are cool, but gimmmmmmme a break! People... COME ON! Have some self respect.

riverc0il Profile \| Galleries Rank: Member Since: Jan 05, 2002 Posts: 3185 Location:Ashland, NH	Posted: Dec 02, 2005 - 11:06 PM GMT best first post ever joee! welcome! __________ TheSnowWay.com

PistePipe Profile \| Galleries Rank: Member Since: Nov 09, 2003 Posts: 78 Location:	Posted: Dec 03, 2005 - 1:37 AM GMT Joee, You read my mind man. I concur 100% with your assessment. What are people thinking? I mean, I am definitely one to hoot when appropriate, but seriously what was there to hoot about??? Getting up and leaving was a much more appropriate response in my book. So, my plan for next year is to go to the Palace in Albany, pick up my free tickets and go to the Pump station for some beer. Anyone else care to join? - J

BeastPatroller Profile \| Galleries Rank: Member Since: Nov 18, 2003 Posts: 697 Location:Enfield, CT	Posted: Dec 03, 2005 - 2:31 PM GMT Here's my 2 cents worth! Went to the movie in Hartford last night and though it wasn't as good as the earlier Warren Miller movies, it wasn't as bad as this post makes it. Sure they filmed a clip on the aircraft carrier but Warren did something like that in one of his earlier films. As for all the Jeep promo, it wasn't any worse than when Nissan use to sponsor the movies. I really missed not hearing his narrations more. In fact, I also felt that they just took the lines from his other movies. All in all, it was a pretty good movie and the free tickets really made the price well worth it! __________ Ski the Beast - Berkshire East

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