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Posted: Nov 28, 2004 - 1:18 PM GMT

Someone this morning said she heard that there were 10,000 people at kmart yesterday. Seems like alot for this time of year with the weather and limited skiing/riding. Anyone know anything?

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Posted: Nov 28, 2004 - 1:41 PM GMT

i was there. i was expecting the crowd to be way way way worse than it was. if you kept away from great northern, the upper mountain, and lower chute things were okay. i was flying on the upper groomers on upper snowdon with no worries of crowds, and the bumps on highline and mouse trap kept the crowds away. all and all, if you knew how to work the mountain and how to avoid the crowds it wasn't bad. but it was HORRIBLE if you were a novice or beginner and skied great northern. i throw some pics up here in a sec.... the intersections of great northern were just insanely bad. but it was managable by my standards, and i hate hate hate crowds.
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Posted: Nov 28, 2004 - 3:37 PM GMT

10,000 visiters is a lot for the terrain they have open. Looking at some of Riv's pix, I'd almost believe it.

More NCP and warm weather, yuk. I'm Jonsin' ovah heyah! Maybe I'll go Tuesday...

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Posted: Nov 28, 2004 - 4:10 PM GMT

10,000 people? wow--i woulda thought more like 500! then again-looking at rivers pics--looks like madness and a lot of terrain open.
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Posted: Nov 28, 2004 - 6:26 PM GMT

definitely a lot more than 500! put it this way: every K1 gondi, snowdon triple, and poma (duh) were going up 100% loaded with a five minute line. snowdon quad sometimes had a line but usually did not and superstar was ski on. not sure how that would equate to people, but could have been in the 10k range but didn't feel it since most skiers ended up on GN, heh.

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Posted: Nov 29, 2004 - 12:39 AM GMT

can't get over how much snow they made considering the weather, it looks great!

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Posted: Nov 29, 2004 - 12:42 AM GMT

Have any of you heard just how many of those cheap season passes ASC sold?

The one day I was at K-Mart this season, there seemed like a lot of season pass holders.

I don't think this weekend was on their "blackout day" list.

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Posted: Nov 29, 2004 - 12:44 AM GMT

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Have any of you heard just how many of those cheap season passes ASC sold?

The one day I was at K-Mart this season, there seemed like a lot of season pass holders.

I don't think this weekend was on their "blackout day" list.

It was for the "Bronze"

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Posted: Nov 29, 2004 - 1:00 AM GMT

Although the cheap "All East" passes is a new product, ASC has in the past 'blacked out" the week between Xmas and New Years, MLK weekend and the Presidents Holiday in February.

In addition to the Bronze Pass which Sled mentioned, people with "Silver" passes cannot ski on Sat. Typically, in the "early" season you get mostly season pass holders.

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Posted: Nov 29, 2004 - 7:36 PM GMT

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Have any of you heard just how many of those cheap season passes ASC sold?

The one day I was at K-Mart this season, there seemed like a lot of season pass holders.

I was on the K1 with a Kmart ambassador on Friday and he said 15,000 had been sold. I noticed a much larger percentage of season pass holders in the lift line this year. Was there Thursday thru Sunday and conditions were excellent considering the weather's non-cooperation.

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Posted: Nov 29, 2004 - 7:43 PM GMT

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i was there. i was expecting the crowd to be way way way worse than it was. if you kept away from great northern, the upper mountain, and lower chute things were okay. i was flying on the upper groomers on upper snowdon with no worries of crowds, and the bumps on highline and mouse trap kept the crowds away.

might not have been just the bumps that kept them away. Mouse Trap was a sheet of ice on Saturday.

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Posted: Nov 29, 2004 - 11:32 PM GMT

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might not have been just the bumps that kept them away. Mouse Trap was a sheet of ice on Saturday.

on saturday skier's left on mouse trap was soft and powdery, i skied it about six times total and it was the best snow on the mountain, imo. now the interersection at the bottom of mouse trap where great northern, lower chute, and bunny buster all met/diverge... that was a sheet of ice for sure! two of the above pictures capture the chaos at that intersection.

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Posted: Nov 29, 2004 - 11:52 PM GMT

I was also there on saturday and found the best trail to be highline. Do any of u kno if that trail will stay open all year or will it be used for a racecourse and halfpipe again?

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Posted: Nov 30, 2004 - 1:04 AM GMT

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on saturday skier's left on mouse trap was soft and powdery, i skied it about six times total and it was the best snow on the mountain, imo. .

agreed. a thin strip of mouse trap was nice. but the other 90% of this short run was all ice, top to bottom. I went down it 4 times sat. afternoon and it wasn't pretty. The best snow on the mountain was Great Northern, of course, cuz this was what they were aiming at having as minimal open. After the rain on Thursday, trails like Mouse Trap were an afterthought, and they showed it. jmho

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Posted: Nov 30, 2004 - 2:40 AM GMT

no idea jay peak.

brockvond, we had completely different experiences, how weird. i hit two rocks on great northern and thought it was spotty coverage on the sides and a hell ride with all the other skiers on it. ah well, good times. highline was great snow too, but it got scraped off wikked bad on skiers right and the bumps weren't quite right, but still good snow.

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Posted: Nov 30, 2004 - 3:36 AM GMT

I HATE when i am skiing bumps and they arent right...

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Posted: Nov 30, 2004 - 4:24 PM GMT

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brockvond, we had completely different experiences, how weird. i hit two rocks on great northern and thought it was spotty coverage on the sides and a hell ride with all the other skiers on it. ah well, good times. highline was great snow too, but it got scraped off wikked bad on skiers right and the bumps weren't quite right, but still good snow.

Well, I wasn't factoring in the crowds, so we aren't that far apart in our opinions. Adding in the crowd factor, I would agree with you 100%. Highline was nice, you're right. They did an amazing job considering how it looked at the end of the day Thursday.

I've attached some pics I took friday. (when the guns were on full blast all day)
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Posted: Nov 30, 2004 - 4:29 PM GMT

I generally stay clear of the K-Mart crowd.

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Posted: Nov 30, 2004 - 8:03 PM GMT

While I haven't heard a pass count, nor do I expect it ever to be all too widely known outside of ASC circles, I've heard that a LOT of Bronze and Silvers were absorbed in NJ, CT, and the NY metro.

If that's correct, there's going be a lot of people at Snow and Killington this season. ASC was also putting on a grand mal pass push in the Globe and at the Boston Ski Expo, so I'd imagine that Sunday and Attitash would also get pretty busy if the passes sold well in E. MA/RI.

K-mart blue light specials always did draw a crowd. Too bad Martha will sit out the early season.

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