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skiingrox Profile \| Galleries Rank: Member Since: Sep 05, 2004 Posts: 89 Location:	Posted: Nov 07, 2004 - 9:03 PM GMT whats the worst pair of skis you've had? Could be the color, performance, shape, or anything. I had a pair of K2's (1996 i think). I can't remember the model, but they were red and they were straight. Those were probably my least favorite skis. __________ "Do What You Like, Like What You Do"-Life is Good

gravitylover Profile \| Galleries Rank: Member Since: Dec 28, 2003 Posts: 366 Location:Putnam County NY	Posted: Nov 07, 2004 - 9:10 PM GMT A pair of (really) old Rossi Strato 105 Serie F. Man were they a bear to turn.

moe Profile \| Galleries Rank: Member Since: Aug 14, 2003 Posts: 538 Location:Back to MA	Posted: Nov 07, 2004 - 9:22 PM GMT For me, I'd have to go with Atomic's 10.20 (the orange ones) from 2000-2001. They were unstable at speed to the point that they would lose contact with the snow. Plus, not only did they delaminate quickly under my feet, but the whole plastic plate split on 1 ski, and a chunk of it broke off under the bindings. And let's talk about the bindings. I went through 4 pairs due to defective springs in the heel piece. Even when I would be forced to set them to 14, I could still walk out of them... and no, I'm not exaggerating. Atomic replaced both the skis, and each set of bindings, but after the 1st season I had them, they didn't get much use. __________ Do not drink Pepsi, do not eat M&M's, because they are the tools of Babylon.

Brian Profile \| Galleries Rank: Member Since: Dec 28, 2001 Posts: 2789 Location:CENTRAL MASS.	Posted: Nov 07, 2004 - 9:31 PM GMT huskys......from the fair or grants circa 72 brian o __________ "riders on the storm" JM

bjtuna Profile \| Galleries Rank: Member Since: Nov 25, 2002 Posts: 275 Location:Boise, ID	Posted: Nov 07, 2004 - 9:47 PM GMT I had a pair of Olin's like 10 years ago. I was a small kid, and they were too long for me, and too stiff. Just a bad experience overall. __________ Intercarve Networks - proud web host for SnowJournal, NELSAP, and Crotched Mountain

salida Profile \| Galleries Rank: Member Since: Dec 18, 2003 Posts: 245 Location:Concord, NH	Posted: Nov 08, 2004 - 2:12 AM GMT Moe I had some bad atomics one time (same vintage), just the same way, I delaminated two pairs of them, the shop said I was skiing to fast. How can one ski to fast, bah. The bindings pre-released a lot as well. Bad experience overall, they ended up giving me next years ski, which still wasn't great. They are my rock skis now. -porter __________ PICTURES My NEW Website, CHECK IT OUT

physicsman Profile \| Galleries Rank: Member Since: Oct 10, 2003 Posts: 55 Location:	Posted: Nov 08, 2004 - 3:41 AM GMT Somewhere around 1980, I had two pair of Kestle CPM Ti skis. Both were around 203-205, and seemed to be almost identical in flex, sidecut, base flatness, condition and tune of the edges, etc.. One was a very reasonable ski for those days, while the other was the most skitterish pair I had (or have) ever been on. That pair was essentially unusable. I thought I had thoroughly checked for railed edges and various other possible causes, but never figured out what the difference was. With 20-20 hindsight, I now think that I may not have been thorough in checking for railed edges up and down the length of the ski. I mostly checked in the mid-section, but I guess it's possible that the base, up towards the tip of the ski, was very concave. I would still like to know for sure. Tom / PM

joshua segal Profile \| Galleries Rank: Member Since: Jul 12, 2004 Posts: 5943 Location:NH	Posted: Nov 08, 2004 - 1:48 PM GMT In 1971, I was a grad student and broke. That season, I delaminated a couple of pairs of skis (including a supposedly indestructable pair of Head 360s). Desperate to ski, late into that season, I found a pair of used 207cm. Downhill VR17 Dynamiques for $30. All they wanted to do was to go straight. Trying to ski the soft bumps on Downdraft at Killington was frustrating as the tips buried themselves in the bumps rather than going over or around the bumps. The next time I went, I took the two good skis that I had remaining from the two broken pairs. I think my left foot was on a Hart King and my right on a Head 360. The VR17s - in the trash with the two broken skis. __________ Joshua Segal

Talisman Profile \| Galleries Rank: Member Since: Nov 06, 2002 Posts: 961 Location:	Posted: Nov 08, 2004 - 2:11 PM GMT I forget the brand, but they were wooden skis with out metal edges that were hand me downs. To 'sharpen' the edges the skis were based through a tables saw. Turning was a slow process that involved total enagement every fiber of my being. In the modern era my worst set of skis was pair of foam core Rossignal DV-6s that were an OK bump skis, but turned into 'noodles' after one season and these things were wild weasels at speed. But compared to the all wood jobs without edges were wonderful.

Allen Profile \| Galleries Rank: Member Since: Jan 21, 2003 Posts: 105 Location:	Posted: Nov 08, 2004 - 2:58 PM GMT Fischer ALU Aluminum makes good foil, not skis. Thankfully they were free. They had the funniest sound when you skied bumps, like a tuning fork on every trough... pyoooon, pyooon, pyoooon, pyoon, pyooon.... funny.

Bill29 Profile \| Galleries Rank: Member Since: Dec 19, 2002 Posts: 2414 Location:	Posted: Nov 08, 2004 - 4:55 PM GMT Had a pair of Head 360s in the 1970s. They were a little too soft for me and at the end of the last (obviously) season I used them, I delaminated the tail of one of the skis. I figured, what the hell, only a few weeks more in the season, I'll keep skiing them. About five inches of edge flopped around a bit and I left little pieces of the wood core on the trail. The next year I bought Head Vector 215s. They were a lot sturdier.

moe Profile \| Galleries Rank: Member Since: Aug 14, 2003 Posts: 538 Location:Back to MA	Posted: Nov 08, 2004 - 8:27 PM GMT Quote: I had some bad atomics one time (same vintage), just the same way, I delaminated two pairs of them, the shop said I was skiing to fast. How can one ski to fast, bah. The bindings pre-released a lot as well. Bad experience overall, they ended up giving me next years ski, which still wasn't great. They are my rock skis now. -porter Atomic did the same thing for me. But what good is them giving you a new pair if they were equal to the ones that had issues. For the first pair, I tried to quiet the tips down with one of those gel pack dampeners toward each tip (at about the point where there's still contact with the snow). It worked okay, but I still didn't trust the ski. Especially where I broke binding heal after binding heal. That season I was racing on their GS ski as well (the 10.22) and I had a race stock binding on it that still would eject me every once in a while set at 15!! to this day, I won't even demo a pair of Atomics because I don't want to risk getting hurt. __________ Do not drink Pepsi, do not eat M&M's, because they are the tools of Babylon.

Live2Ski Profile \| Galleries Rank: Member Since: Nov 18, 2003 Posts: 244 Location:Where the powder is!	Posted: Nov 12, 2004 - 8:32 PM GMT Rossi Bandits they noodled out in half a season. In fact most of the rossi skis I ever owned were trash after one season.

skiingrox Profile \| Galleries Rank: Member Since: Sep 05, 2004 Posts: 89 Location:	Posted: Nov 12, 2004 - 8:38 PM GMT Rossi bandits were my second worst after the K2s! __________ "Do What You Like, Like What You Do"-Life is Good

SNOWTURX Profile \| Galleries Rank: Member Since: Jan 03, 2003 Posts: 593 Location:In the 510	Posted: Nov 12, 2004 - 11:03 PM GMT Edited: Nov 12, 2004 - 11:05 PM GMT This is a fascinating topic for those, like me, that haven't been skiing that long. I'm waiting for IskiAtomic to weigh in on the de-laminating Atomic's. I was thinking of getting some Bandit B2's My wife liked the K2 T9's she tried I like the idea of the 'pinging' ALU ski's. Fair warning of your approach ! Are you guys particularly big/strong/heavy ? I'm just 135 lbs or so, I'm told I'm a fairly aggresive skier, and my 2 season old Rossi's (Cut 10.6) are just beginning to lose their 'pop' (according to the guy in the shop. We just had our annual Binding test/tune up). Gotta do some demo-ing I guess TX __________ Don't Sweat The Petty Stuff, And Don't Pet The Sweaty Stuff

salida Profile \| Galleries Rank: Member Since: Dec 18, 2003 Posts: 245 Location:Concord, NH	Posted: Nov 13, 2004 - 12:16 AM GMT From my atomics I went to Elan M12 Fusions I love these skies, a lot of people feel that elan is a frindge brand, however, these skis are something else. I think the same model is being marketed as the 666 this year. If you get a chance to demo these, DO IT porter __________ PICTURES My NEW Website, CHECK IT OUT

Jonni Profile \| Galleries Rank: Member Since: Oct 12, 2001 Posts: 2341 Location:Sunapee, NH & Rutland, VT	Posted: Nov 13, 2004 - 12:49 AM GMT Edited: Nov 13, 2004 - 12:50 AM GMT My worst pair of skis is not having any. I hate having to rent. Though I don't have to worry about that anymore. I have my Salomons to keep me happy. __________ Fall Line n. Imaginary line following the most direct path down a slope that skiers continuously traverse on a run, often stopping at other invisible slope features along the way like the Tumble Lane, the Stagger Path and the Topple Zone.

orangegondola Profile \| Galleries Rank: Member Since: Jan 07, 2002 Posts: 1366 Location:somewhere on shazam	Posted: Nov 13, 2004 - 6:54 AM GMT sali xscreams __________ www.savemagicvermont.com, www.chairlift.org

tommyadrian5 Profile \| Galleries Rank: Member Since: Mar 13, 2003 Posts: 563 Location:Right Behind You...	Posted: Nov 13, 2004 - 1:32 PM GMT Worst Pair: 2001 line skogen sprang (twin tips) These aren't really a bad pair of skis at all, as long as you stay in the park. Outside the park they are horrible, half because they are noodles when you buy them, half because the binding mount is dead center front-to-back on the ski (for easier rotation). I still love them to death. They are so light i can 360 standing still, so doing it off tabletop in the park is a piece of cake. Since i couldn't really ski the lines all over the mountain (without killing myself) i picked up a pair of Rossi Scratch BC's, which actually make a great all mountain ski (like sex in powder) and pull their weight in the park (although noticably heavier than the line's). Their only downside is bumps and crud, but they aren't made for that so you can't blame them. I also have a pair of Atomic Beta Ride 11.2's, which i don't use much because they are so-so in powder (scratch bc's) and are not a park or freestyle ski at all. But oh do they rip in crud and packed powder. Have about 40 days on the atomics and 25 on the scratch's with no problems whatsover. About 50 days on the lines, and although noodles, which doesn't matter in the park, they are fine save a few chips out of the cap due to mute 360's gone wrong (edge to topsheet = chip)

ccslider Profile \| Galleries Rank: Member Since: Sep 03, 2003 Posts: 270 Location:SW Colorado	Posted: Nov 13, 2004 - 2:41 PM GMT Late 1960's vintge Kneissl Red Stars - they liked to go straight but they held a sharp edge flying straight down the fall-line.

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