Hey magicskier... What do you have against Dostals? It is the only place to get a good drink and listen to jukebox in londonderry. You can always go to Jakes and hang out with the local scene. What is wrong with boxing? Maybe that will draw some off season money into the area.
I am getting the impression that I am not beloved around here. Sorry everyone that I have an opinion that most dont agree with. Lets just say this, until recently no matter how aggregious magics mismanagement, complete lack of business sense and callous disregard for the safety of their patrons was I supprted them and hoped for nothing more than to see this place where I grew up thrive. It was not to be and unfortunately for everyone from the town of londonderry to the homeowners to the skiers the place is done for good.
As far as Dostals I've known Trudy Dostal since I was 5 years old and loved the place. I cannot Imagine she is too happy to have boxing matches going on there and I would venture to guess that if she knew they were going to run the place as they are she would not have sold to them. BOXING ?!@#$%^&*
Magic, don't get sensitive on us. Not beloved? There are eight pages on this topic and you're the engine driving it. You have something to say and you say it forcefully. People are reading it and reacting to it. Writers would kill for that kind of attention and when you're on this site you're a writer. This would be a very dull website if everyone agreed on everything.
I remember when the addition of a fixed grip triple was a big deal at West Mountain. T-bar's ruled at smaller areas and only the "big guys" could afford chairs for the most part. As an old artf, I think of the HS lifts as being "new-fangled" ski area technology. Having grown up on fixed lifts, they seem "normal", and the HS's seem "really fast". They do have their place, but I think not at Magic. I like the idea of it being "classic"; a skiers mountain. . .let the vacationers go to Stratton.
Times change. There may be a day when an area can no longer buy a fixed lift. While I like the speed and easy loading and unloading of high speed lifts, if they do not move more skiers per hour than a fixed lift does why are they becoming so prevelant at the larger ski areas? Why do these areas then widen the trails to the size of a boulevard if not to accomodate skier traffic?
Whenever I hear someone say they won't visit a ski area because of slow lifts, and lack of amenities I think "Whew! Thank God I'll have an uncrowded area to ski on the weekends. There'll be more room for me."
Funny how the simplest thing can stop a lift. Jiminy had at least a 1.5 hr stoppage on their new HS Six pack on a Saturday. A few days later on a ride up with one of their lift ops he told me they found out a sensor wire broke causing the stoppage. Fortunately I was not on the lift when it stopped as it's my "big fear", that I lose a few hours skiing while stranded on a broken lift.
Are we all experiencing the "end of season blues"? Snowball fights have turned into slush throwing, and hopefully will not turn into dirtballs?
Magicskier- Take this with a grain of salt- Your apology was well taken, and when one thinks about it, Magic could certainly use a good Janitor about now. It's that lack of that has put the place in it's current state. Also, as I think you've been royaly screwed out of those passes- when they sold them did they state they were "transferable", if they did you rightfully have a beef and they should honor it.
Again, with all this talk of Magic, I'm psyched to hit her trails next Winter!
magicskier, i don't think it's "what" you are saying but "how" you are saying it that is getting under people's skin. like i previously posted, i think almost every die hard magic skier on this forum has agreed there are issues. but you're on here mixing in legitiment and insightful and thoughtful commentary and opinion (which i respect!) with highly inflamatory personal feelings (i think the blue collar comment among others was a little off base, but whatever).
Magicskier You are the most talented writer ever to grace this message board! Your honest appraisal of Magic was written in such an inflamatory manor that you got everybodys attension. Even Sled and OrangeG had to admit alot of what you were saying was true. I even remember when Chris closed a thread because someone was negative about how Magic handeled their lift evac last season! But your elloquence has kept this thread going resulting in the longest topic of all time. Lets hope someone from Magic is aware of this.
You can't say that the topic of Magic doesn't evoke a little emotion. Class, like race and religion, makes for rough trails, let's say and leave it at that. Gene pool references, on the other hand, have been cause for 100's of years of wars..., many more lost friend/kinships.
Anyway, added comments to the Magic thread at hand appreciated. I was trying to be devil's advocate on the existing lift topic in hopes that other's would chime in on that. I guess the reality is that the triple passed an '03 inspection. (So did my truck..., with new balljoints.)
Fair to say that all major facility operations areas would compete in a real needs analysis and upgrade budget. I surely can't disagree with snowmaking being a heavy consideration there after this (and too many past) season(s).
But again, any word on who current ownership is (see end of my last post)? Thanks
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Its me I really want to apologize once again for the blue collar comments.It was the wrong choice of words. I truly respect and hang out with alot of hard working guys that do the work that I would never want to do myself.I just had two of my oldest friends who are carpenters up at the house (unfortunately magic was closed with two feet of snow on the ground so we had to go to killington) That being said I do on occasion get a little bit of an attitude from some of our regulars and locals at magic and dostals simply because me and my friends may be dressed a little more upmarket or at least perceived as such. I have lived in manhattan for many many years and have been moderately successful and I am not going to apologize for that.
I do go skiing in part to associate with the best and brightest while taking part in the most graceful,elegant sport ever and historically the sport has attracted just those types.
Sometimes and I repeat sometimes I feel like I am at a monster truck show when I am at magic
I swear to god if anyone says "whats wrong with monster truck shows" I will crap my pants!
" It was not to be and unfortunately for everyone from the town of londonderry to the homeowners to the skiers the place is done for good"
I think it best that your chapter is over, the book however is far from done.
OK Allen my chapter is over and there is one more left. It will be a long harrowing tale full of misery,money woes,angry people, possible death,bankruptsy,real estate collapse and sadness and I want no part of that. So much for happy endings.
I guess it was about 1978 and during a morning run before the skiers arrived the lift fell to the ground. fortunately noone was on it but we were going to ski there that day. It was a relatively new lift that was maintained properly.More details I do not know but I will ask my dad what he remembers.So just imagine what could happen to a lift that has not been painted or maintained in any way shape or form for approximatly 15 years.