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Omens for the 2012-13 Ski Season

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joshua segal Profile \| Galleries Rank: Member Since: Jul 12, 2004 Posts: 5941 Location:NH	Posted: Aug 08, 2012 - 7:24 PM GMT As of August 8, we were closer to the 2012-3 season than the 2011-12 season. I tried a similar thread last year, but didn't get much response. So what are the forecasts and omens that you are hearing about or observing for the 2012-13 season? Height of bee hives: High = deep snow season Size of acorns: large = deep snow season --- Quantity of acorns: Low = higher than average temp Southern migration of robins: late = higher than average temp --- Wooley Bears: very furry = very cold Farmers Almanac: (I haven't seen it yet.) El Nino/La Nina What other omens do you know and what are they showing? __________ Joshua Segal

Bill29 Profile \| Galleries Rank: Member Since: Dec 19, 2002 Posts: 2414 Location:	Posted: Aug 08, 2012 - 7:52 PM GMT It's a little early to check on this one,Joshua. But when they begin to hit the market, look at the treads on snow tires. The tires seem to know when we're going to have a snowy winter and they grow their treads thicker and deeper. (I guess I better put in a Harvey Ball smiley face just in case someone thinks I'm serious).javascript:%20x()

Bill29 Profile \| Galleries Rank: Member Since: Dec 19, 2002 Posts: 2414 Location:	Posted: Aug 08, 2012 - 7:52 PM GMT It's a little early to check on this one,Joshua. But when they begin to hit the market, look at the treads on snow tires. The tires seem to know when we're going to have a snowy winter and they grow their treads thicker and deeper. (I guess I better put in a Harvey Ball smiley face just in case someone thinks I'm serious).javascript:%20x()

sugarloaf Profile \| Galleries Rank: Member Since: Mar 05, 2004 Posts: 477 Location:Coventry, Connecticut	Posted: Aug 08, 2012 - 8:00 PM GMT Inacurateweather is calling for a warm and dry fall for the Northeast leading into winter.

marcski Profile \| Galleries Rank: Member Since: Dec 14, 2003 Posts: 2066 Location:Westchester Co., N.Y.	Posted: Aug 08, 2012 - 8:20 PM GMT Here's my prediction. It's going to be better than last season!!!

mapnut Profile \| Galleries Rank: Member Since: Jul 31, 2002 Posts: 5061 Location:New York City	Posted: Aug 09, 2012 - 1:44 AM GMT Some years back we had a thread about someone stealing some snow plows. I said, somebody must know something. Did anyone ever find out where they went?

kappcity06 Profile \| Galleries Rank: Member Since: Aug 17, 2007 Posts: 259 Location:HobokenNJ	Posted: Aug 09, 2012 - 12:39 PM GMT God help us if it isn't better than last season. To be fair I might not be as old as some of our more seasoned memebers but I can only remember one winter in the late 90s that sucked as bad as this past one did. Please let it snow....but after seeing the article about the warm records we've been hitting across the country and the lack of mositure I'm getting a little nervous.

loafasaur Profile \| Galleries Rank: Member Since: Aug 14, 2002 Posts: 699 Location:East of the Kennebec	Posted: Aug 09, 2012 - 12:58 PM GMT Quote: It's a little early to check on this one,Joshua. But when they begin to hit the market, look at the treads on snow tires. The tires seem to know when we're going to have a snowy winter and they grow their treads thicker and deeper. (I guess I better put in a Harvey Ball smiley face just in case someone thinks I'm serious).javascript:%20x() The drier Bill's humor is in August, the deeper the snow will be in February. __________ loafasaur

70s gore kid Profile \| Galleries Rank: Member Since: Mar 09, 2010 Posts: 314 Location:Top of Cheat Mountain, WV	Posted: Aug 09, 2012 - 1:06 PM GMT Here's the official report from Accuweather. Start booking your December flights to Denver now. STATE COLLEGE, Pa., Aug. 7 (UPI) -- Chilly air and early snow are expected in the Rockies for fall 2012 but temperatures will be mild for parts of the Midwest and Northeast, U.S. forecasters say. Meanwhile the Southeast and Gulf Coast will see rain, and some drought relief is in store for the Plains, AccuWeather.com reported Monday. While cold air may be delayed in arriving in the East, cold weather will not have a problem reaching the Rockies, making it the first area at risk for early frosts and freezes, AccuWeather forecaster Paul Pastelok said. "I think there will be some early cold outbreaks out over the central and northern Rockies, especially. I think that where the season -- winter season -- actually is going to start much quicker," he said. Read more: http://www.upi.com/Science_News/2012/08/07/Early-chill-snow-forecast-for-Rockies/UPI-13901344374332/#ixzz233OJJus4

sugarloaf Profile \| Galleries Rank: Member Since: Mar 05, 2004 Posts: 477 Location:Coventry, Connecticut	Posted: Aug 09, 2012 - 8:04 PM GMT Quote: God help us if it isn't better than last season. To be fair I might not be as old as some of our more seasoned memebers but I can only remember one winter in the late 90s that sucked as bad as this past one did. Please let it snow....but after seeing the article about the warm records we've been hitting across the country and the lack of mositure I'm getting a little nervous. Going back a bit the winter of 1988-1989 was virtually snowless until February. I think December of 1982 or 1983 had a complete meltdown and monsoon rain right around Christmas in New England.

nepa_9939 Profile \| Galleries Rank: Member Since: Apr 01, 2011 Posts: 158 Location:Wenatchee WA (formerly Scranton PA)	Posted: Aug 10, 2012 - 2:03 AM GMT I'm not sure if I would call it an omen... Just a gut feeling. As a premptive measure, I just sold my plow. I think it's going to dry out west, and well above average back east. I was looking at the historical numbers, the pattern appears to be very dry out here immediately after a la nina...most recently, In 05/06, there was literally no snow... 05 was the close of a la nina cycle... Not sure of the influence in the East, but I think you guys are due for a good one. __________ End this Phony Drug War

joshua segal Profile \| Galleries Rank: Member Since: Jul 12, 2004 Posts: 5941 Location:NH	Posted: Aug 23, 2012 - 2:47 PM GMT Email I receive today from Sugarbush Quote: Our lift mechanics are facing an enormous challenge this summer as they complete routine maintenance on our lifts. They are getting stung by hornets who are building nests high in our lift towers. Last year they built pretty low to the ground. I learned something while speaking with Ken about it the other day. "In the fifteen years I've been at Sugarbush," he said, "I've found that hornets and wasps are the best forecasters of the winter to come. When the hornets build high, we are in for a snowy winter." This is good news. __________ Joshua Segal

joshua segal Profile \| Galleries Rank: Member Since: Jul 12, 2004 Posts: 5941 Location:NH	Posted: Aug 25, 2012 - 11:41 AM GMT Another positive: I was in Bennington, NH yesterday and saw two of the hairiest woolie bears I've seen in years. Another person told me he saw very large acorns, also an omen of a snowy winter, but he went on to say that the acorns last winter were of a similar size. __________ Joshua Segal

photogf128 Profile \| Galleries Rank: Member Since: Apr 10, 2004 Posts: 2605 Location:MRV Vermont	Posted: Aug 27, 2012 - 4:05 AM GMT Knowing that hornets abandon their paper nests in the fall the science factor would look rather skepitical at the height of the hornets nest thing. They are probably just geting away from the disc golfers and mountain bikers. Despite this I would take the hornets omen anyday over those Accuweather bozos prediction any day. __________ facebook.com/profile.php?id=1454198707#!/pages/American-Photoart-Gallery/90884206988

ski63 Profile \| Galleries Rank: Member Since: Oct 19, 2006 Posts: 115 Location:	Posted: Sep 02, 2012 - 1:14 AM GMT The tree in my back yard has more Buckeyes than we have seen in the 26 years we have been here. The squirrels need more food for the "real" winter that is coming.

WOHOP Profile \| Galleries Rank: Member Since: Mar 11, 2003 Posts: 310 Location:NEW FAIRFIELD CT	Posted: Sep 04, 2012 - 12:47 AM GMT Southern CT. here not one acorn on any of my trees. This is the first time in my entire life that I have not heard any cicada's in August let alone September. Only one tree has any color, everything else is green as it was in July. I do not know what to make of it but I do not like it. __________ DON'T PANIC

justloafing Profile \| Galleries Rank: Member Since: Jan 20, 2009 Posts: 28 Location:Wailuku, HI	Posted: Sep 04, 2012 - 7:59 PM GMT Sunny and in the high 70's to low 80's here in Wailuku, HI. No snow.

bubblecuffer Profile \| Galleries Rank: Member Since: Jan 25, 2007 Posts: 272 Location:	Posted: Sep 05, 2012 - 3:33 AM GMT Acorn counts have plummeted again this summer....not sure what all that would mean other than being similar to last summer/fall. I believe the strongest indicator of a horrific winter would be an alarmingly early snowfall such as the one seen in New England last October. A clear indicator the weather pattern is totally f'd up. Heavy snows are for January, not October.

Bill29 Profile \| Galleries Rank: Member Since: Dec 19, 2002 Posts: 2414 Location:	Posted: Sep 05, 2012 - 2:56 PM GMT Quote:"Acorn counts have plummeted again this summer....not sure what all that would mean other than being similar to last summer/fall." It means that squirrels, deer, bears, etc., may not be as fat this winter as they'd like to be. I really don't think we can depend on insects and rodents to be good predictors of snow depths and cold weather. Tire treads, yes. That other stuff, no.

4aprice Profile \| Galleries Rank: Member Since: Jan 16, 2006 Posts: 999 Location:Lake Hopatcong, NJ	Posted: Sep 07, 2012 - 1:27 PM GMT Quote: Acorn counts have plummeted again this summer....not sure what all that would mean other than being similar to last summer/fall. I'm not seeing the same thing. Acorns are coming down at a good rate and have been since mid August. Last late summer and fall I saw very few. Different story this year. Alex Lake Hopatcong, NJ

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