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Posted: Aug 07, 2012 - 6:14 PM GMT Quote: Carinthia was built by a German guy who did the area mostly by himself. It had the short Baba chair, and the t-bar. No snowmaking. In his last years he installed the double to the summit and added three major runs off the top. Also added snowmaking. Soon after Mt Snow (Ski LTD Corp, also owners of K-Mart at the time) took over and connected the area to MS. The trail names were changed later to the mining theme, after the takeover. Austrian  http://www.newenglandskihistory.com/Vermont/carinthia.php __________ NewEnglandSkiHistory.com |
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Posted: Aug 07, 2012 - 11:53 PM GMT Quote: Carinthia was built by a German guy who did the area mostly by himself. It had the short Baba chair, and the t-bar. No snowmaking. In his last years he installed the double to the summit and added three major runs off the top. Also added snowmaking. Soon after Mt Snow (Ski LTD Corp, also owners of K-Mart at the time) took over and connected the area to MS. The trail names were changed later to the mining theme, after the takeover. I didn't realize that Mt. Snow changed the names at Corinthia. I bet one reason they did that is because there is an old entrance to a mine over at Corinthia. It's not to far up on the right as you ride the main lift. Probably the story behind the trail names. If there was alot of mining in the region the ore car theory sounds good. Mt Snow had alot of these lifts. It would take alot of slaughter house type of meat carriers to build that many lifts. It must have been cheaper for Walt to do it this way compared to cable chairlifts. |
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Posted: Aug 08, 2012 - 12:25 AM GMTEdited: Aug 09, 2012 - 7:18 PM GMT A great way to solve several problems would be with 2 lifts. The first is a small 3S system. BUT not where you might be thinking. If the system ran up the line of the current Bucksaw chair (or close), had a mid-station that took a left turn and continued on to the summit. This would allow access to Bullwinkles restaurant in the evenings (a great revenue source $$$). It would allow this lower section to operate in 50+ MPH winds (who wants to ski in more wind than that anyway.) With its speed it should allow access to the summit in under 10 minutes on nicer days. To supplement this, a return to the old T-bar that once followed (almost), the timberline liftline. Between these 2 lifts, it would fill many of the voids all at once. Just my thoughts, it is really great to watch all these improvements from out in the west. Cheers everyone! |
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Posted: Aug 08, 2012 - 9:17 PM GMT I'm not familiar with SL and the actual issue, but I'm more than willing to put in my 2 cents... If the wind issue is just at the summit, would enclosing the upper portion of the line and the terminal the same way that Mammoth does help the problem? |
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Posted: Aug 10, 2012 - 8:09 PM GMT Quote: Don't know anything about lift design, just glad there are smart people out there that make 'em. I rode the Lionshead Gondola in mid-March 1976 for two days on my college spring break. On March 26th of that year that gondola had a bad accident. Two cabins derailed off the high towers, killing four and injuring eight. The gondola was closed the remainder of the season until the Von Roll Lift Company installed a state-of-the-art monitoring system. I think this is that gondola: Definately looks like the old Lions Head Gondola. I was out in Colorado that same year as well. Arrived the day Spyder Savage got shot and left the day of the gondola accident at Vail. As far as lifts affected by winds. I know that the Madonna I chair at Smuggler's was lowered on the last rise to cut down on wind holds. You used to be able to get the greatest views on the Mt Mansfield at Stowe complex from that lift but its not as great now. I believe when they first did it they ran in to some problems with the lift mechanics but having riden it just last March they seem to have ironed those out. Alex Lake Hopatcong, NJ |
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Posted: Aug 13, 2012 - 11:55 AM GMT Quote: A great way to solve several problems would be with 2 lifts. The first is a small 3S system. BUT not where you might be thinking. If the system ran up the line of the current Bucksaw chair (or close), had a mid-station that took a left turn and continued on to the summit. This would allow access to Bullwinkles restaurant in the evenings (a great revenue source $$$). It would allow this lower section to operate in 50+ MPH winds (who wants to ski in more wind than that anyway.) With its speed it should allow access to the summit in under 10 minutes on nicer days. To supplement this, a return to the old T-bar that once followed (almost), the timberline liftline. Between these 2 lifts, it would fill many of the voids all at once. Just my thoughts, it is really great to watch all these improvements from out in the west. Cheers everyone! If SL is willing to spend big bucks this is an excellent option. It gives a base to summit lift plus summit access w/o going near the base. It may be noteworthy to compare areas that removed base to summit lifts, SL, Sugarbush and Killington (I've never skied Gore) and one that built one, Stratton. I've skied them all. Getting to the summit to start the day and after lunch is useful. But otherwise "All the way back to the base" on flat trails is the reason I avoided using the lift. On very cold days gondolas/trams are nice. But I only get to Jay one day a year and I use the Flyer rather than the tram. An enclosed base to summit lift doesn't matter to 'hard core' skiers/riders but it does attract others. |
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Posted: Aug 13, 2012 - 12:09 PM GMT Doesnt SL have the two lifts to the summit thing now? |
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Posted: Aug 13, 2012 - 12:23 PM GMT Quote: Doesnt SL have the two lifts to the summit thing now? No the Timberline FGQ is the only summit lift. King Pine doesn't go to the summit. |
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