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joshua segal
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Posted: Jun 29, 2012 - 5:43 PM GMT

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You hit it on the nose. In an advanced, civilized society, healthcare should be an entitlement and everyone should get the same care. It shouldn't matter how much money you have to pay for insurance.

Amen to marcski's comment.
The rich will always get what they want and for them there will still be boutique medicine. It will be interesting to see how much will be saved on Mr. Average's premium, when Mr. Formerly Uninsured's unpaid costs are not added into Mr. Average's premium.

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Posted: Jun 29, 2012 - 5:47 PM GMT

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Magic Mountain is making all the right moves and things are looking up for one terrific ski area! Can't wait to ski there next season.

(not-so-veiled attempt to hijack the thread...with a more contentious topic)

On that note there seems to be some activity in the trees at Magic....wonder what it could be
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Posted: Jun 29, 2012 - 5:59 PM GMT

prep work for a fracking operation...natural gas is Magic's ticket to economic stability. Really.
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Posted: Jun 29, 2012 - 6:04 PM GMT

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"More to the point for winter resorts, employers who have more than 50 employees and don't offer insurance could also face a penalty. NSAA and other organizations have been working with government regulators to establish rules regarding how the law will treat workers who are on the job for less than 120 days a year and the companies that employ them. We will report further on this as the details of the law, and the Supreme Court ruling, become more clear."


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www.saminfo.com

BREAKING NEWS NEWS ARCHIVE

SUPREME COURT UPHOLDS HEALTH REFORM LAW

June 28, 2012



SAM Magazine—Washington, D.C., June 28, 2012—The U.S. Supreme Court voted 5 to 4 to uphold the health care reforms passed in 2010, commonly known as Obamacare, saying the law was justified under the taxing power of the Federal government. The ruling leaves the law almost entirely intact, and means that companies will have to continue preparing for implementation.

Chief Justice Roberts joined Justices Breyer, Ginzberg, Sotomayor, and Kagan in upholding the law. Justice Kennedy, often the court’s swing vote, sided with the minority, who believed “the entire Act before us is invalid in its entirety.”

The debate over health care is certain to continue, as Republicans have vowed to continue efforts to overturn or repeal it. Republican presidential hopeful Mitt Romney has said he will repeal it if elected.

Passed in 2010, the health care law aims to expand health care coverage to nearly all Americans. It provides subsidies to poorer and middle-class households as well as to some businesses for insuring their workers. However, the Supreme Court ruling appears to limit the Federal government’s ability to require states to expand Medicaid coverage for poor and nearly poor households or pay a penalty, as the law had called for.

While some of the more popular elements of the law are already in effect, the individual mandate for buying insurance and many other key elements don’t go into effect until 2014. At that time, states are required to have established “health insurance exchanges,” and individuals will have to buy insurance—for many, with the government subsizing a portion of the cost—or pay a penalty of one percent of their income.

More to the point for winter resorts, employers who have more than 50 employees and don't offer insurance could also face a penalty. NSAA and other organizations have been working with government regulators to establish rules regarding how the law will treat workers who are on the job for less than 120 days a year and the companies that employ them. We will report further on this as the details of the law, and the Supreme Court ruling, become more clear.


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Posted: Jun 29, 2012 - 8:39 PM GMT

From Epicski forum

The TV news media and CNN.com is absolutely worthless for information. I found if you google Obamacare it produces lots of political and news media mis-information. I don not want to get into the politics here. I finally googled "Affordable Health Care" and got to these links. I found it useful to click on Timeline What's Changing and When.

http://www.healthcare.gov
http://www.healthcare.gov/law/timeline/index.htm

Here is some information on health care insurance assistance that starts in Jan 1, 2014 for anyone earning less than $43,000 a year.

http://www.healthcare.gov/blog/2011/01/saving-money.html
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Posted: Jun 29, 2012 - 9:13 PM GMT

From Intlski's article: "Republican presidential hopeful Mitt Romney has said he will repeal it if elected."
I hope that's a misquote. Presidents don't repeal anything.


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Posted: Jun 29, 2012 - 9:15 PM GMT
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I found it useful to click on Timeline What's Changing and When.

Funny, they don't mention the 16,000 IRS agents they'll be hiring to collect the 20 or so taxes being implemented to pay for all of this free stuff. Nor did they mention the broken promise about those making under $250K not having to pay additional taxes.
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Posted: Jun 29, 2012 - 9:18 PM GMT

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Presidents don't repeal anything.


No, they just issue executive directives to selectively enforce the law.
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Posted: Jun 29, 2012 - 9:23 PM GMT

cue Bud Light ad: "Here We Go!!"...

Sure hope it snows this winter in the NE...
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Posted: Jun 29, 2012 - 9:29 PM GMT

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... Nor did they mention the broken promise about those making under $250K not having to pay additional taxes.

I believe it was Chief-Justice Roberts who called it a tax. Everyone else is calling it an insurance premium!

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Posted: Jun 29, 2012 - 10:11 PM GMT

For the record as a volunteer firemen and EMT, I am personally tired of doing CPR on all ages from 5 year olds on up that would have lived if they went to the hospital earlier. In many cases they did not go to the hospital earlier because of MONEY. When a small child under 10 years old dies in you arms it just rips your heart out.

My niece is a ICU Nurse. She tells me that many patients she sees in her ICU would have never been there if they got to the hospital earlier.

We can do better than this. A lot better.
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Posted: Jun 29, 2012 - 10:35 PM GMT

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Mitt Romney has pledged to stop “Obamacare” on Day 1 if he wins the White House. But what comes next?


NY Times
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Posted: Jun 29, 2012 - 11:07 PM GMT

This is not a political discussion board. There are plenty of other places on the 'net to discuss this issue. Just not hear please.
Thanks.

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