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Posted: Jun 18, 2012 - 7:43 PM GMT

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I found this photo looking at images of ski the catskills. That looks like 3 SMI guns next to the farm. I have read on snowguns for waste desposial, but dont know anything about it. Could this be for that? I was wondering if anyone can clue me in on this picture? If I zoom in the picture, they look like SMI Genesis guns. I could be wrong.

EDIT-I said SMI, I meany HKD.
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Posted: Jun 19, 2012 - 2:38 AM GMT

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As your title says, it's and HKD not a SMI.

It is a final step in water treatment, passed the tertiary stage. Basically it's described as a "polishing" of the water. The premise is that the waste water coming out of the snowgun is atomized and freezes rapidly such that only pure ice is formed. Any impurities remain in the liquid phase. I assume, the unfrozen water is collected somehow and retreated.

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Posted: Jun 19, 2012 - 4:07 AM GMT

Sorry, I said SMI when I ment HKD. Thanks for a answer Ob. Weird stuff anyway. IF those HKDs cost 500 bucks used. does the farmer know how to get his moneys worth?

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Posted: Jun 19, 2012 - 2:24 PM GMT

off topic a bit: Hunter has to have the strangest trail layout anywhere. I know it is b/c of the ledge, and it must have been brutal trying to get the trails in (any old pics anywhere of construction? Bueller??).

Thunder Ridge is a close second...

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Posted: Jun 19, 2012 - 2:34 PM GMT

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off topic a bit: Hunter has to have the strangest trail layout anywhere. I know it is b/c of the ledge, and it must have been brutal trying to get the trails in (any old pics anywhere of construction? Bueller??).

Thunder Ridge is a close second...

Hunters builders, the Slutski brothers, were in the building and blasting business. Later snowmaking became the brothers obsession.
I dont think Thunder Ridge did any blasting. Some bulldozing along the two novice runouts to the base. TR is one strange layout for such a smsll area.

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Posted: Jun 19, 2012 - 3:37 PM GMT

Additionally one of the reasons why snowmaking guns of various types are used at some cold weather smaller waste water treatment sites, is that if the discharge of the final treated water is into a SMALL stream, that stream may not have any waterflow if it's frozen solid and/or a reduced enough capacity to handle the discharge volume because the majority of the stream bed is frozen solid, so then via the snowmakers they can "discharge" the volume of treated water into a big pile of snow, that will slowly be released into the stream as both the pile and stream melt.

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Posted: Jun 19, 2012 - 4:30 PM GMT

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NY Ski Blog just posted a great article on the history of Hunter Mtn. It is a great read.

History of Hunter Mtn

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Posted: Jun 19, 2012 - 8:20 PM GMT

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It is a final step in water treatment, passed the tertiary stage. Basically it's described as a "polishing" of the water. The premise is that the waste water coming out of the snowgun is atomized and freezes rapidly such that only pure ice is formed. Any impurities remain in the liquid phase. I assume, the unfrozen water is collected somehow and retreated.

In the early 70's we had the "Living Filter" at Penn State. It used the same concept. I don't recall the details but effluent was certainly primarily treated. The liquid from the sewage treatment plant was then pumped to fields, forests and I think the golf course. At that time I don't think snowmaking guns were used but the liquid was sprayed and it was done year round. At the ten year mark no ground water was contaminated. Indeed the soil was a 'living filter'.

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Posted: Jun 19, 2012 - 8:33 PM GMT

Could those guns possibly be for a XC skiing operation adjacent to Hunter? I don't know that area, but I do know of several nordic areas that have snowmaking on cross country trails...

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Posted: Jun 19, 2012 - 8:36 PM GMT

I have looked into some info on this. From what little I found out, it seems like old fan guns are used alot. Do these places (farms) have pumps and compressors? Or is it just water pressure? It makes me wonder how often the farmer has to change or clean the nozzles in a HKD shooting farm junk.

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Posted: Jun 19, 2012 - 8:44 PM GMT

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Could those guns possibly be for a XC skiing operation adjacent to Hunter? I don't know that area, but I do know of several nordic areas that have snowmaking on cross country trails...

The area has XC, but not where the picture is. That section of Hunter/ Tannersville isnt known for XC snowmaking. Good snowmobile trails around the towns. I almost took out a sled driving my quad once. As for the sorry line, I took the couple to the Last Chance Cheese Shop.

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