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tom white Profile \| Galleries Rank: Member Since: Sep 08, 2004 Posts: 732 Location:South Windsor, CT	Posted: Jun 06, 2012 - 8:13 PM GMT From their site after the new Skyline lift info: •T-Bar, Timberline, Double Runner, West Mountain Several options are currently being evaluated for the next lift to follow Spillway in the replacement strategy. These options include (in no particular order) a possible t-bar to the summit to ensure access on even the windiest days, a replacement of the Timberline lift with a new extension to the Bullwinkle's area, a fixed-grip quad to replace the Double Runner Chairs, and a replacement for the West Mountain Chair. We will continue to examine each of these options, paying particular attention to the ways in which traffic patterns may change following the opening of Brackett Basin and the replacement of the Spillway chair. •Village to Summit Signature Lift The vision of a signature lift travelling from the base of the mountain straight to the summit is an exciting concept, and it is hoped that the improvements to Sugarloaf's existing infrastructure outlined in this plan will pave the way for the type of signature lift that Sugarloafers once enjoyed in the legendary gondola. Wind Mitigation Techniques such as wind fencing and new sheave train designs work to reduce the effects of winds on lifts. These techniques have already been utilized to great success on the Double Runner Chairs, SuperQuad, and #3 T-Bar, and additional wind mitigation work is planned for the Timberline and King Pine lifts.

obienick Profile \| Galleries Rank: Member Since: Oct 21, 2005 Posts: 1197 Location:	Posted: Jun 06, 2012 - 11:23 PM GMT Edited: Jun 06, 2012 - 11:26 PM GMT They should instal a funitel as opposed to a gondola for the Village-to-Summit lift. Dopp says they can operate in 60 mph winds by having two haul ropes 10 feet apart. Plus they operate at a whopping 1475 fpm! There's only one other in the US -- Squaw Valley, CA. If this isn't a signature lift, I wouldn't know what is! Dopp's webpage

newman Profile \| Galleries Rank: Member Since: Aug 21, 2008 Posts: 2128 Location:The mighty SKI WARD Shrewsbury MA	Posted: Jun 06, 2012 - 11:31 PM GMT I love the t-bar idea. Who was the last eastern resort to install a new one? (not moving one that was used) Dont hear about that idea much these days. You hear of old areas trying to open on a used one. Such as Snow valley or Timber Ridge dreamed about. But really, when was the last new one in the East?

obienick Profile \| Galleries Rank: Member Since: Oct 21, 2005 Posts: 1197 Location:	Posted: Jun 07, 2012 - 2:04 AM GMT Edited: Jun 07, 2012 - 2:09 AM GMT Recent Newly-Installed Non-Conveyor Surface Lifts in East: (data from skilift.org's lift install survey) 1977 - Lift #3, T-Bar, Prospect Hill, MA 1977 - ?, Platter, Vernon Valley, NJ 1977 - ?, Platter, Beartown Ski Area, NY 1977 - JBar, J-Bar, Suicide Six, VT 1978 - ?, T-Bar, Bonds Lake Park, NY 1978 - ?, T-Bar, Whiteface Mountain, NY 1978 - ?, T-Bar, Mt. Pleasant, NY 1979 - ?, T-Bar, Sugar Mountain, NC 1979 - ?, J-Bar, Roundtop, PA 1980 - ?, Platter, Oglebay Pak, WV 1980 - Gunshy Platter, Platter, Gunstock, NH 1981 - ?, J-Bar, Windham, NY 1982 - ?, Platter, Killington, VT 1984 - Exhibitition, Platter, Waterville, NH 1988 - Snowstars, Platter, Okemo, VT Last new New England T-Bar would be the 1977 upper T-Bar at Prospect. Last new non-conveyor surface lift in New England would be the Snowstars Platter at Okemo.

bigbobs Profile \| Galleries Rank: Member Since: May 03, 2009 Posts: 28 Location:Lee, NH	Posted: Jun 07, 2012 - 9:50 AM GMT I thought Sugarloaf was going to replace the King Pine lift with a detachable quad this summer and move that lift over to replace the double runners. What happened to that plan?? Money being put into the golf coarse and new snow guns instead.

loafasaur Profile \| Galleries Rank: Member Since: Aug 14, 2002 Posts: 701 Location:East of the Kennebec	Posted: Jun 07, 2012 - 12:20 PM GMT This is actually old news. They pasted the Skyline update into the original Plan. The "signature lift" idea to replace the gondola had some legs when Boyne first acquired SL and the Town of Carrabasset Valley was even talking about helping fund it, but it never got off the ground. "It is hoped" = pipedream at this point. My $.02, if a "signature lift" ever gets built if will go between Bucksaw and West Mtn. chairs (There's a survey line from a couple years ago.) and go from a new base area to the top via Bullwinkles. The new base area likely high-end and low-vehicle-traffic, leaving us plebes at the current base area. This would take an economic turnaround and many stars aligning. No inside info, just looking at what there is. __________ loafasaur

telemechanic Profile \| Galleries Rank: Member Since: Jul 24, 2004 Posts: 413 Location:North Woodstock, NH	Posted: Jun 08, 2012 - 12:50 AM GMT Quote: I love the t-bar idea. Who was the last eastern resort to install a new one? (not moving one that was used) Dont hear about that idea much these days. You hear of old areas trying to open on a used one. Such as Snow valley or Timber Ridge dreamed about. But really, when was the last new one in the East? The Pisgah Ski Center in Saranac Lake NY installed a new Doppelmayr t-bar last summer. I think we could see two new t-bars in NH in the next couple years.

flbski Profile \| Galleries Rank: Member Since: Dec 30, 2005 Posts: 507 Location:Spokane	Posted: Jun 08, 2012 - 1:13 AM GMT Mittersill and ? __________ Skiing is a disease curable only by death

telemechanic Profile \| Galleries Rank: Member Since: Jul 24, 2004 Posts: 413 Location:North Woodstock, NH	Posted: Jul 17, 2012 - 10:55 PM GMT Bretton Woods

flbski Profile \| Galleries Rank: Member Since: Dec 30, 2005 Posts: 507 Location:Spokane	Posted: Jul 17, 2012 - 11:01 PM GMT So I see! __________ Skiing is a disease curable only by death

jb66 Profile \| Galleries Rank: Member Since: Jun 24, 2004 Posts: 1585 Location:	Posted: Jul 18, 2012 - 1:21 AM GMT New Dopp t-bar installed last summer on lower Inverness at Mt. Ellen.

brecker Profile \| Galleries Rank: Member Since: Mar 25, 2012 Posts: 9 Location:	Posted: Jul 18, 2012 - 4:41 PM GMT Interesting how there were many loaf apologists who insisted the removal of the gondola (and others like it - Sugarbush comes to mind) was an "improvement" by dispersing skiers around the mountain. On it's face of course that was ridiculous, thats like saying "no one rides that lift, it's too crowded". Now, they are back to touting it as an improvement. Which is it?

loafasaur Profile \| Galleries Rank: Member Since: Aug 14, 2002 Posts: 701 Location:East of the Kennebec	Posted: Jul 18, 2012 - 5:48 PM GMT Quote: Interesting how there were many loaf apologists who insisted the removal of the gondola (and others like it - Sugarbush comes to mind) was an "improvement" by dispersing skiers around the mountain. On it's face of course that was ridiculous, thats like saying "no one rides that lift, it's too crowded". Now, they are back to touting it as an improvement. Which is it? Why don't you ask the Third Billy Goat? __________ loafasaur

brecker Profile \| Galleries Rank: Member Since: Mar 25, 2012 Posts: 9 Location:	Posted: Jul 19, 2012 - 7:31 PM GMT Is that a troll reference?

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