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Then and Now - Aerial Images

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rocket21 Profile \| Galleries Rank: Member Since: Sep 13, 2001 Posts: 8400 Location:USA	Posted: Jun 05, 2012 - 4:33 PM GMT I've recently compiled some "Then and Now" aerial images of ski areas, generally comparing the 1990s B&W imagery to the recent color photos. Some areas are virtually unchanged, whilst others have changed significantly. Massachusetts Vermont __________ NewEnglandSkiHistory.com

joshua segal Profile \| Galleries Rank: Member Since: Jul 12, 2004 Posts: 5940 Location:NH	Posted: Jun 05, 2012 - 5:04 PM GMT Nice work. I am surprised that Watatic, Berkshire Snow Basin and Mt. Tom haven't grown over more than the photos show. __________ Joshua Segal

rocket21 Profile \| Galleries Rank: Member Since: Sep 13, 2001 Posts: 8400 Location:USA	Posted: Jun 05, 2012 - 5:25 PM GMT Thank you. I'll have more up in the coming days most likely. Anyone with Google Earth can do this, however I think it's interesting to see the areas side by side, as well as on the same page, for comparison. __________ NewEnglandSkiHistory.com

Jimme Profile \| Galleries Rank: Member Since: Jan 25, 2002 Posts: 1208 Location:6 miles West of Jiminy Peak, MA	Posted: Jun 05, 2012 - 7:47 PM GMT Edited: Jun 05, 2012 - 8:45 PM GMT Fantastic stuff! The addition of Jackson Gore at Okemo shows a big difference. __________ The Artful Dodger

70s gore kid Profile \| Galleries Rank: Member Since: Mar 09, 2010 Posts: 314 Location:Top of Cheat Mountain, WV	Posted: Jun 05, 2012 - 8:48 PM GMT I think Killington is the only area that SHRUNK in the before and after photos.

ThatNYguy Profile \| Galleries Rank: Member Since: Sep 08, 2001 Posts: 1748 Location:Circling near Albany, NY	Posted: Jun 06, 2012 - 2:12 AM GMT Quote: Thank you. I'll have more up in the coming days most likely. Anyone with Google Earth can do this, however I think it's interesting to see the areas side by side, as well as on the same page, for comparison. As time passes and the views are updated, this is a smart and very interesting thing to do.

rocket21 Profile \| Galleries Rank: Member Since: Sep 13, 2001 Posts: 8400 Location:USA	Posted: Jun 06, 2012 - 10:47 AM GMT Some New Hampshire areas have been added: New Hampshire - Then and Now __________ NewEnglandSkiHistory.com

mapnut Profile \| Galleries Rank: Member Since: Jul 31, 2002 Posts: 5060 Location:New York City	Posted: Jun 06, 2012 - 12:44 PM GMT Hadn't occurred to me before, but there's been a lot more expansion in New Hampshire than in Vermont.

marcski Profile \| Galleries Rank: Member Since: Dec 14, 2003 Posts: 2064 Location:Westchester Co., N.Y.	Posted: Jun 06, 2012 - 8:00 PM GMT Quote: Hadn't occurred to me before, but there's been a lot more expansion in New Hampshire than in Vermont. Live free or die vs. the granolas and environmentalists

playoutside Profile \| Galleries Rank: Member Since: Mar 23, 2007 Posts: 177 Location:Near Boston & Northern NJ	Posted: Jun 07, 2012 - 1:36 AM GMT That is really cool! Thanks so much for doing that and sharing it! I'm surprised how much has stayed the same...not sure why since I know how tough it is to get agreement from federal/state players...but still surprised

mapnut Profile \| Galleries Rank: Member Since: Jul 31, 2002 Posts: 5060 Location:New York City	Posted: Jun 07, 2012 - 6:00 PM GMT Quote: [quote]Hadn't occurred to me before, but there's been a lot more expansion in New Hampshire than in Vermont. Live free or die vs. the granolas and environmentalists[/quote] Is that really the case? After all, Okemo got Jackson Gore built quicker than Loon got South Mountain built, a comparable expansion. And Sunapee had its expansion shot down by the town and the governor. Has there been any Vermont expansion stopped by environmentalists? Was Slide Brook ever seriously considered? I think the difference is more a matter of most Vermont resorts being fully built out by the 1990s whereas NH resorts were smaller, with room to grow.

lotsoskiing Profile \| Galleries Rank: Member Since: Aug 17, 2009 Posts: 874 Location:	Posted: Jun 07, 2012 - 7:07 PM GMT has buildout led to increased skier visits at the places that got larger? Above the avg rate of advance/decline? How do VT and NH skier visits compare? Slide Brook was never seriously proposed. It is in the master plan, to a degree (lift pod behind North Lynx) but nothing seriouly proposed, I believe. Only Parker's Gore at K-Mart is the ony major project in VT I recall being shut, but I could be wrong...

obienick Profile \| Galleries Rank: Member Since: Oct 21, 2005 Posts: 1162 Location:	Posted: Jun 07, 2012 - 7:23 PM GMT Was the Mount Snow--Haystack interconnect ever more than a pipe dream? Certainly the large build of the Killington--Pico interconnect was approved, and even extended last year.

joshua segal Profile \| Galleries Rank: Member Since: Jul 12, 2004 Posts: 5940 Location:NH	Posted: Jun 07, 2012 - 7:29 PM GMT Is the premise correct? Major developments in VT were at Burke and Okemo (with some downsizing at Killington, Stowe and possibly even Magic). Major development in NH were at BW, Loon and Attitash. There have been major real estate efforts in both states, most extensive is at Spruce Peak at Stowe and South Peak at Loon. __________ Joshua Segal

newman Profile \| Galleries Rank: Member Since: Aug 21, 2008 Posts: 2124 Location:The mighty SKI WARD Shrewsbury MA	Posted: Jun 07, 2012 - 11:15 PM GMT So who has been the big expander overall? Im guessing Sunday River in the last 20 years? Now that I think about it, good overall expansion in the poor old state of Maine. At least in recent years.

bobbutts Profile \| Galleries Rank: Member Since: Nov 20, 2006 Posts: 609 Location:Central NH	Posted: Jun 08, 2012 - 1:03 PM GMT Quote: Is the premise correct? Major developments in VT were at Burke and Okemo (with some downsizing at Killington, Stowe and possibly even Magic). Major development in NH were at BW, Loon and Attitash. There have been major real estate efforts in both states, most extensive is at Spruce Peak at Stowe and South Peak at Loon. Looking at Magic including Timber Ridge, and it looks pretty much identical. It appears Timber does as good a job as most open areas at clearing their slopes.

itzthebigo Profile \| Galleries Rank: Member Since: Feb 22, 2005 Posts: 41 Location:	Posted: Jun 08, 2012 - 4:32 PM GMT A little off topic but how did they prevent collisions where the trails cross between magic and timber side? The topography suggests that it would have been beneficial for a skier to get up some speed and the intersection is blind from both directions.

mapnut Profile \| Galleries Rank: Member Since: Jul 31, 2002 Posts: 5060 Location:New York City	Posted: Jun 08, 2012 - 4:43 PM GMT Edited: Jun 08, 2012 - 6:41 PM GMT There's a similar 2-way intersection at Okemo between the main mountain and Jackson Gore. It's pretty flat and no one would be going fast enough there to have trouble avoiding a collision. In the case of Magic/Timberside, I doubt there were ever more than a few hundred skiers a day making that trip!

newman Profile \| Galleries Rank: Member Since: Aug 21, 2008 Posts: 2124 Location:The mighty SKI WARD Shrewsbury MA	Posted: Jun 08, 2012 - 5:13 PM GMT Quote: A little off topic but how did they prevent collisions where the trails cross between magic and timber side? The topography suggests that it would have been beneficial for a skier to get up some speed and the intersection is blind from both directions. I dont think they ever had that many going back and forth to worry about what you are asking. I dont think those crossovers would work in todays snowboard friendly market.

bobbutts Profile \| Galleries Rank: Member Since: Nov 20, 2006 Posts: 609 Location:Central NH	Posted: Jun 08, 2012 - 6:48 PM GMT Quote: A little off topic but how did they prevent collisions where the trails cross between magic and timber side? The topography suggests that it would have been beneficial for a skier to get up some speed and the intersection is blind from both directions. it was a long time ago that I took that run, but I remember it being more like a walking speed with skating and poling vs. demolition derby

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