On the bad lift thread the topic of foul odors in gondi cars came up. It made me think. What areas have you noticed with the best and worst lodge restrooms or public locker areas?
Bousquet had old bathrooms and almost zero lockers. But, had free ski check.
Windham has some nice restrooms in the base and even the Wheelhouse lodge.
The old Great Gorge had a restroom building at mid-station. thats the only one of those I ever noticed while skiing. __________
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Jay, either lodge, prior to the "Tram House" upgrade last year. Combine a 1-3 hour car ride with lots of coffee and a long powder day ahead and that thing was a disaster at 8:15 in the morning on a weekend.
I appreciate restrooms with hooks for jackets, and baskets or shelves for gloves, helmets, etc. There's nothing worse than having your clothes get wet in the restroom because there was no dry spot to put anything.
A non-trivial subject. I remember a trip to Mount Mohawk, MA, which had a native American trail theme. The men's room sporting the sign, "Braves" could be better understood upon entering
The following are key factors IMO for making ski area bathrooms usable (and less disgusting).
1. Many people are not generally comfortable walking in ski boots. As such, there needs to be more room than normal rest rooms.
2. The combination of human liquids plus ice and moisture tracked-in requires better floor drainage than a typical restroom
3. A non-slip floor is good. No one wants to fall anywhere much less than on a wet restroom floor.
4. Stalls need to be bigger that normal building standards require because of the bulky clothing people are wearing. In many a men's room, only every other urinal is usable for this reason.
5. Hooks for coats, and shelves for gloves and helmets
6. Appropriate sanitation and cleaning to mitigate smells and to make sure that toilet seats are properly attached and the various paper dispensers are appropriately stocked.
I can't think of a single area that meets all of the above criteria.
So many restrooms are in the basements of lodges, making skiers walk down long staircases in ski boots. I've never understood this.
There were/are probably a few factors involved (it seems that at least some newer lodges have been built with restrooms on the main floor, for convenience and ADA reasons)
- As noted above, ski area rest rooms can be wet places due to melting snow from ski boots, overflowing toilets, etc....if the floor isn't kept sealed with a drain, then the water rains on whatever's below.
- Ski area restrooms tend to be stinky places...it's not too appealing when the smells waft into the dining areas.
- Two restrooms on a main floor can take up a lot of space, that would otherwise be used for revenue generation and valuable seating capacity.
[quote]So many restrooms are in the basements of lodges, making skiers walk down long staircases in ski boots. I've never understood this.
There were/are probably a few factors involved (it seems that at least some newer lodges have been built with restrooms on the main floor, for convenience and ADA reasons)
- As noted above, ski area rest rooms can be wet places due to melting snow from ski boots, overflowing toilets, etc....if the floor isn't kept sealed with a drain, then the water rains on whatever's below.
- Ski area restrooms tend to be stinky places...it's not too appealing when the smells waft into the dining areas.
- Two restrooms on a main floor can take up a lot of space, that would otherwise be used for revenue generation and valuable seating capacity.[/quote]
Good answer Rocket. But still none of us like that hike down stairs to the john and usually prefer restrooms on the same level as rest of lodge. Snowbasin solves this by having elevators to the lower level restrooms. Saddleback solved it by installing pit toilets adjacent, but separated by a door from their mid-mountain yurt, which as a guy worked for me.