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Posted: May 08, 2012 - 8:26 PM GMT

Isnt Blue Knob Von Roll?
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Posted: May 08, 2012 - 8:47 PM GMT

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Great picture, and it shows why a double from the 1960s isn't suitable for today's much more sizable skiers. It's not much more than a single for that guy on the chair. We've gained a lot of weight since 1963.

Hey, I haven't! Not that I'm still skinny, rather I was already heavy in 1970. I don't remember any of the double chairs I rode back then as being too snug, but the one at Jiminy is, and by the looks of this one at Highmount it would have been pretty uncomfortable.
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Posted: May 08, 2012 - 8:52 PM GMT

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Bill, that guy was probably just a fan of the Steelers, Blue Knob is about 100 miles east of Pittsburgh. But he was big enough to play for the Steelers at approximately 6'5"/300lbs. Of course, nowadays that's an undersized lineman

Newman, although I've ridden the lift thousands of times, I couldn't tell you for sure who built it off the top of my head. My source on manufacturer is skilifts.org, if you know better I'm all ears.

Speaking of tight chairs, here's a pic of my son (150lbs) on the Outpost Double at Pico in 2011. Per Jonni's original post in this thread it's circa 1969.
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Posted: May 11, 2012 - 11:15 PM GMT

I rode that chair at Jiminininiminy in the mid '70's and it was far from comfortable. I did always love the way it looked, between the center pole carriers and the "Erector set" towers, it was unique in the Northeast.

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Posted: May 12, 2012 - 3:11 PM GMT

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Isnt Blue Knob Von Roll?
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Based on the posted picture, I'd say no. Those are definitely '80s vintage Dopp carriers. Von Roll used the Hall chair design on their lifts.

This goes back to the main question, which is why I feel the MRG single is not a new lift. I'd bet anything the Blue Knob's haul rope has been replaced at least once in its 50 year history. The carriers are a definite replacement and I'm sure the drive has been at least somewhat changed up over the past 50 years.

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Posted: May 12, 2012 - 5:07 PM GMT

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I'm sure that old lift at Blue Knob includes all kinds of cannibalized stuff on it.

Sorry this is a thread hijack, but just for fun here are photos of two older and very snug center pole double chairs I rode out in NM in Jan 2012. Can you identify make and vintage?

First photo is Lift 7A (281’ vertical) at Taos, NM, a fun, old center pole double chair which leads to the highest point on the mountain. Besides the high nostalgia factor, Lift 7A affords a commanding view of Highline Ridge, perhaps the most accessible of the spectacular expert hike-to terrain at Taos.

Second photo is the Green Chair at Red River, NM. This is a shortish chair of similar vertical, but covers much easier beginner terrain close to the RR summit. It's on the "backside" of the RR trail layout, catches a lot of sun, has great views, and is a really sweet place for novices to hang out.
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Posted: May 13, 2012 - 6:53 PM GMT

NM has some cool old lifts. 7A I believe is a Stadli. Sandia has a center pole Riblet that's probably older than I am that's in pristine shape. ABd U recall a few gems at Pajarito. (I'm not sure how they're doing after several really bad wildfire seasons. Sorry for pushing the tangent further off topic.

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Posted: May 14, 2012 - 4:14 PM GMT

I don't see the Cleopatra Triple at Camelback. Gotta be installed about 63 or 64. Originally a Riblet, the chairs have been replaced but the original towers still remain including several that were placed in at an angle and and array of towers at the top that is really cool.

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Posted: May 14, 2012 - 10:55 PM GMT

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I don't see the Cleopatra Triple at Camelback. Gotta be installed about 63 or 64. Originally a Riblet, the chairs have been replaced but the original towers still remain including several that were placed in at an angle and and array of towers at the top that is really cool.

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That is Borvig chairs and crossarms. Anyway,when the present triple was put in, the crossarms of a Riblet would not be useable for Borvig triple carriers. If you say the towers are origional, than it would just be the posts?

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Posted: May 15, 2012 - 2:26 AM GMT

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North American Ski Lift Survey says the Cleopatra Triple was installed by Riblet in 1964 and retrofitted with a new drive terminal by Borvig in1992. Doesn't say anything about the chairs or towers.

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Posted: May 15, 2012 - 3:46 PM GMT

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North American Ski Lift Survey says the Cleopatra Triple was installed by Riblet in 1964 and retrofitted with a new drive terminal by Borvig in1992. Doesn't say anything about the chairs or towers.

Those are definitely Borvig chairs and cross-arms.

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Posted: May 16, 2012 - 1:51 AM GMT

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[quote]Great picture, and it shows why a double from the 1960s isn't suitable for today's much more sizable skiers. It's not much more than a single for that guy on the chair. We've gained a lot of weight since 1963.

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Posted: May 16, 2012 - 4:26 AM GMT

Highmont's is a Mueller. I'm pretty sure Jiminy's is a Riblet.

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Posted: May 16, 2012 - 10:57 PM GMT

Highmont's came from Jimminy.

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Posted: May 17, 2012 - 1:46 PM GMT

At one time all of Jiminy's chairs were riblets. 180 Triple, Exhibition double, Triple chair, Grand Slam.

I used to love when the exhibition chair was open, it was much much faster than the Triple.

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Posted: May 17, 2012 - 8:30 PM GMT

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At one time all of Jiminy's chairs were riblets. 180 Triple, Exhibition double, Triple chair, Grand Slam.

I used to love when the exhibition chair was open, it was much much faster than the Triple.

True. The origional summit lift was Mueller. That went to Highmount.
Later on came the Q1. Named as the first quad in MA. So why didnt they call the Berkshire Express the S1? Or HSS1 or HSDSP1.

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