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Back to the Future at Mountain Creek

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rickbolger Profile \| Galleries Rank: Member Since: Mar 14, 2005 Posts: 2317 Location:Great Gorge, NJ	Posted: Jan 04, 2012 - 4:07 PM GMT Edited: Jan 04, 2012 - 4:11 PM GMT browsing a report on nj.com about opening day at Mountain Creek last week, blogger complaining that lines were non-existent, it was simply a disorderly mob scene: wow. haven't been to creek since they kicked the high school racers out in 2008. things were orderly at that time. the photo linked above reminds me of the mid 1970s, except this looks worse! they need to get their act together good times

Bill29 Profile \| Galleries Rank: Member Since: Dec 19, 2002 Posts: 2414 Location:	Posted: Jan 04, 2012 - 4:40 PM GMT In that middle pic, eight of the people on the trail are boarders and the other two, partially hidden by the lift, probably are. Any trend here? I was told that at WAWA when they had only a couple of trails open on the lower mountain, (Ralph's Run and Challenger) the count was three boarders for every skier. Maybe, in marginal conditions, boards give a better ride than skis. Or maybe boarders are more eager to get on the snow, or have more free time.

4aprice Profile \| Galleries Rank: Member Since: Jan 16, 2006 Posts: 999 Location:Lake Hopatcong, NJ	Posted: Jan 04, 2012 - 5:02 PM GMT Edited: Jan 04, 2012 - 5:03 PM GMT That picture is frightening. I can just imagine what it was like up on the trails. The more I see and hear about that place the less likely it is that I will ever set foot (or ski) on it again. The Pocono's are no picinic but I've never seen anything like that even at Blue which has some chaotic lift lines. Alex Lake Hopatcong, NJ

z1000307470 Profile \| Galleries Rank: Member Since: May 07, 2004 Posts: 504 Location:Bergen County, NJ	Posted: Jan 04, 2012 - 5:16 PM GMT I too skied VV/GG a lot during the 1970s. After looking at those photos all the bad memories flooded back. Yuk. Good to see the new ownership brought back crap line management. I wonder if they still have the 'bond holders' line for avoiding that mess. I am so happy that this place is no longer tempts me. For another 1/2 hour of driving time I can be in the Catskills.

70s gore kid Profile \| Galleries Rank: Member Since: Mar 09, 2010 Posts: 314 Location:Top of Cheat Mountain, WV	Posted: Jan 04, 2012 - 7:43 PM GMT Now those photos bring this 70s's kid back to 1976. Cue the Elton John, maybe "Philadelphia Freedom." Just like z, I skied Vernon Valley-GG in my youth and most remember the crowds, especially on the slooooow double chairs at Great Gorge. At least slow doubles meant few people on the slopes. This is a case where HSQs can make the few open trails very dangerous. However, opening day at any day trip hill brings out young aggressive males, which means lots of guys in the their teens and 20s on boards. And people actually buy condos there? Really?

joshua segal Profile \| Galleries Rank: Member Since: Jul 12, 2004 Posts: 5964 Location:NH	Posted: Jan 04, 2012 - 7:56 PM GMT My favorite skiing oxymoron: "Nobody skis there. It's too crowded." __________ Joshua Segal

newman Profile \| Galleries Rank: Member Since: Aug 21, 2008 Posts: 2128 Location:The mighty SKI WARD Shrewsbury MA	Posted: Jan 04, 2012 - 9:15 PM GMT All those people there in the NY metro market, and Hidden Valley was open with the novice Chicken Delight run for 39 bucks. At least Creek got both base lodges open and a HSQ and full run at South. plus the Cabrolet and Sugar Quad at Vernon. Not anything great, but a better showing then Hidden did. It just shows that HV has a market if they could do better. The new onwner havent had alot of anything good to offer in three years. Its bad for the skiers who enjoy the unique area HV can be when its just about all open. Its like K-Mart to Magic, in a Bannana belt kind of way. BTW, HV closed Feb 27th last year. Now thats just sad.

Chris Profile \| Galleries Rank: Member Since: Apr 19, 2001 Posts: 2720 Location:New Hampshire	Posted: Jan 04, 2012 - 10:48 PM GMT wow, crazy ... great pics. __________ SnowJournal.com

lotsoskiing Profile \| Galleries Rank: Member Since: Aug 17, 2009 Posts: 892 Location:	Posted: Jan 05, 2012 - 12:05 AM GMT frightening pictures...

jm99 Profile \| Galleries Rank: Member Since: Nov 30, 2008 Posts: 155 Location:Boston area	Posted: Jan 05, 2012 - 12:33 AM GMT I thought Wachusett was crowded.....damn that's scary

medford_mike Profile \| Galleries Rank: Member Since: Jan 19, 2011 Posts: 41 Location:Boston, MA	Posted: Jan 05, 2012 - 1:17 AM GMT Yikes. I grew up in NNJ only about 30 minutes from VV/GG. I am more of an 80s and 90s skier. While I can't speak to the 70s even when I was younger my parents were anti VV/GG and would take a longer trip to the Poconos. In our case Masthope (now Big Bear) and Tanglewood in the Lake Wallenpaupack area was the place to learn to love the sport. I also agree with the previous poster it just shows that Hidden Valley has a lot of potential that is not being realized especially for beginner and families with smaller kids.

newpylong Profile \| Galleries Rank: Member Since: Nov 05, 2003 Posts: 1468 Location:Billerica, MA Enfield, NH	Posted: Jan 05, 2012 - 1:52 AM GMT damn! Looks like Carinthia but 3 times the crowd, lol.

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