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Ski Areas Open Daily with a Major Lift Pod that is Not

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riverc0il Profile \| Galleries Rank: Member Since: Jan 05, 2002 Posts: 3185 Location:Ashland, NH	Posted: Sep 22, 2011 - 9:42 PM GMT Quote: Just curious about how the Slidebrook impacts skiing a "trail pod"? Slidebrook connects two mountain areas which is more than a trail pod in my opinion. I think Sugrabush skis better with the Slidebrook running and others will point out there is always the shuttle bus. Agreed. Slidebrook is not a pod. Everything is skiable. And you can switch mountains via a bus. __________ TheSnowWay.com

sugarloaf Profile \| Galleries Rank: Member Since: Mar 05, 2004 Posts: 480 Location:Coventry, Connecticut	Posted: Sep 22, 2011 - 11:53 PM GMT Edited: Sep 22, 2011 - 11:55 PM GMT Quote: [quote]When I skied at Butternut last January during the mid-week, the Cruiser Chairlift was closed and as such you could not ski the upper parts of the Cruiser and Dipsy trails. These are very short sections. Not alot of area lost. Plus, you can access the top of these off Upper Applejack, on natural snow times. Sometimes Butternut is open without Overbrook Triple. The pod with Crosstown, Upper Downspout, and Upper Freewheeler is not open. What about Whiteface? Does that new peak (Wilmington Trail) area open mid week?[/quote] How often can you ski off the trails at Butternut? How can you get to them, by cutting through some woods? If thats the case then you could do the same at Wachusett to access Vickery Bowl when it's closed provided that you don't get caught by ski patrol who are not likely to be friendly to that kind of skiiing.

photogf128 Profile \| Galleries Rank: Member Since: Apr 10, 2004 Posts: 2605 Location:MRV Vermont	Posted: Sep 23, 2011 - 12:07 AM GMT Edited: Sep 23, 2011 - 1:30 AM GMT I don't mind waiting for the shuttle, kinda makes me feel like I'm in Europe. lol __________ facebook.com/profile.php?id=1454198707#!/pages/American-Photoart-Gallery/90884206988

jaytrem Profile \| Galleries Rank: Member Since: Mar 21, 2002 Posts: 1075 Location:	Posted: Sep 23, 2011 - 2:09 AM GMT Quote: Now I've never been to Mt. Snow when the Bear Trap was closed and Sunbrook was open. If this is the case, then Bear Trap becomes a pod for the list - although the Lift Line on Bear Trap, which is the inaccessible trail, is closed more than it is open. You can get to the top of Beartrap by staying on Long John (or what was once Long John before they cut down on the trail names). It did require going up a short hill, but with enough speed and hard pack conditions there is no walking required.

Skileader Profile \| Galleries Rank: Member Since: Jan 15, 2002 Posts: 1000 Location:Long Island N.Y.	Posted: Sep 23, 2011 - 6:36 AM GMT Edited: Sep 23, 2011 - 6:37 AM GMT Lookout Mt., at Whiteface, is usualy open when snow covered. Might be the last to be so. __________ Bob P.

kneedipper Profile \| Galleries Rank: Member Since: Oct 16, 2010 Posts: 67 Location:	Posted: Sep 23, 2011 - 1:08 PM GMT As a supplement to Skileader, Whiteface during midweek usually has one or more lifts not running, its always a gamble. The Gondi is always a crap shoot with wind as is the Summit Lift. half the time the Little W-face double and Mountain Run chair aren't spinning mid week. With the State in such dire budget constraints i'm guessing that even more lifts wont run mid week to save $$$ on employee wages.

newpylong Profile \| Galleries Rank: Member Since: Nov 05, 2003 Posts: 1466 Location:Billerica, MA Enfield, NH	Posted: Sep 23, 2011 - 1:49 PM GMT Quote: [quote]Now I've never been to Mt. Snow when the Bear Trap was closed and Sunbrook was open. If this is the case, then Bear Trap becomes a pod for the list - although the Lift Line on Bear Trap, which is the inaccessible trail, is closed more than it is open. You can get to the top of Beartrap by staying on Long John (or what was once Long John before they cut down on the trail names). It did require going up a short hill, but with enough speed and hard pack conditions there is no walking required.[/quote] Yup, was Long John. And the "High" Carinthia loop or something like that was from Long John down to Deer Run. I think that section of LJ hasn't opened in years..used as an access road now I believe. No snowmaking...

newpylong Profile \| Galleries Rank: Member Since: Nov 05, 2003 Posts: 1466 Location:Billerica, MA Enfield, NH	Posted: Sep 23, 2011 - 1:50 PM GMT Quote: [quote][quote]Now I've never been to Mt. Snow when the Bear Trap was closed and Sunbrook was open. If this is the case, then Bear Trap becomes a pod for the list - although the Lift Line on Bear Trap, which is the inaccessible trail, is closed more than it is open. You can get to the top of Beartrap by staying on Long John (or what was once Long John before they cut down on the trail names). It did require going up a short hill, but with enough speed and hard pack conditions there is no walking required.[/quote] Yup, was Long John. And the "High" Carinthia loop or something like that was from Long John down to Deer Run. I think that section of LJ hasn't opened in years..used as an access road now I believe. No snowmaking... I have never looked at a topo but a short connector from Long John (or whatever) up to the top of Beartrap would be nice... then they don't have to run the double midweek and when the Sunbrook Quad is replaced it can run as a HSQ all week and we can hit everything from it. [/quote]

newpylong Profile \| Galleries Rank: Member Since: Nov 05, 2003 Posts: 1466 Location:Billerica, MA Enfield, NH	Posted: Sep 23, 2011 - 1:52 PM GMT Quote: [quote]Now I've never been to Mt. Snow when the Bear Trap was closed and Sunbrook was open. If this is the case, then Bear Trap becomes a pod for the list - although the Lift Line on Bear Trap, which is the inaccessible trail, is closed more than it is open. You can get to the top of Beartrap by staying on Long John (or what was once Long John before they cut down on the trail names). It did require going up a short hill, but with enough speed and hard pack conditions there is no walking required. [/quote] Yup, was Long John. And the "High" Carinthia loop or something like that was from Long John down to Deer Run. I think that section of LJ hasn't opened in years..used as an access road now I believe. No snowmaking... I have never looked at a topo but a short connector from Long John (or whatever) up to the top of Beartrap would be nice... then they don't have to run the double midweek and when the Sunbrook Quad is replaced it can run as a HSQ all week and we can hit everything from it.

joshua segal Profile \| Galleries Rank: Member Since: Jul 12, 2004 Posts: 5946 Location:NH	Posted: Sep 23, 2011 - 2:38 PM GMT Although there have been quite a few postings, there are few additions: Sugarloaf nominated the Cruiser Chair at Butternut. Newman says, "no" but nominated the "Overbrook Triple." So I added "Butternut" without a specific pod named. As per riverc0il's suggestion, I added the Cannon Tram, even though I am reluctant to do so. More than 90% of the accessible terrain on the "Tram pod" is accessible from other lifts and Kinsman Glade and Tramline are open so infrequently that most of the time that the tram is closed, 100% of the open terrain on the "Tram pod" is accessible. Second Summary MA Butternut (see note above) Vickery Bowl, Wachusett NH Tram, Cannon Mt. High Country, Waterville Valley Dartmouth Skiway: One side or the other. (I know that used to be the case, but was told they regularly operate both sides now. Any confirmation?) VT A-Slope and Outpost, Pico Wilderness, Bolton Valley Practice Slope, Mad River Glen Slidebrook, Sugarbush I'll reject both the Cannon Mt. Tram and Sunbrook at Mt. Snow. Like the South Ridge at Killington, you can get to them albeit inconveniently. Now I've never been to Mt. Snow when the Bear Trap was closed and Sunbrook was open. If this is the case, then Bear Trap becomes a pod for the list - although the Lift Line on Bear Trap, which is the inaccessible trail, is closed more than it is open. More? __________ Joshua Segal

sugarloaf Profile \| Galleries Rank: Member Since: Mar 05, 2004 Posts: 480 Location:Coventry, Connecticut	Posted: Sep 23, 2011 - 3:01 PM GMT Ski Blanford is frequently opened with most or all of the North chair area ,skiers far right off the summit, either not operating or closed due to no snowmaking and lack of cover.

adk_jeff Profile \| Galleries Rank: Member Since: Jan 11, 2011 Posts: 22 Location:Saratoga Springs, NY	Posted: Sep 23, 2011 - 4:57 PM GMT Skileader mentioned Gore. During non-holiday weeks Gore often shuts down the High Peaks chair, North chair, Burnt Ridge Quad and the Ski Bowl (the last two being the new terrain pods that were added over the past 3 years). Doing so completely removes access to huge chunks of the mountain. I haven't added up the acreage, but it's got to be in the neighborhood of a third of Gore's terrain, if not more. __________ http://saratogaskier.blogspot.com/

joshua segal Profile \| Galleries Rank: Member Since: Jul 12, 2004 Posts: 5946 Location:NH	Posted: Sep 23, 2011 - 5:52 PM GMT A few notes: 1. To the several of you who mentioned a few NY areas, I tend to summarize only New England. But I have no problem with the NY inputs to the thread. 2. The title of this thread is Ski Areas Open Daily with a Major Lift Pod that is Not . Blandford is already on the list of areas not open daily. __________ Joshua Segal

sugarloaf Profile \| Galleries Rank: Member Since: Mar 05, 2004 Posts: 480 Location:Coventry, Connecticut	Posted: Sep 23, 2011 - 10:03 PM GMT Edited: Sep 23, 2011 - 10:05 PM GMT OKAY, SORRY I did not realize that Blandford was not opened every day.

skierpilot Profile \| Galleries Rank: Member Since: Apr 01, 2006 Posts: 632 Location:	Posted: Sep 23, 2011 - 11:13 PM GMT I realize most people can't ski mid week, but that's where you can save the most by far. A Stratton/Okemo midweek pass is a little under $350.00! You could ski at two large resorts for about $15.00 a day if you ski 22 days. If you grabbed all the deals out there midweek, it would be hard to average $15.00. If you did, a fair amount of your days would be at smaller areas or early/late season deals where less terrain is available after you averaged it all out. The big downside of it is that you ski the same area over and over. The Stratton/Okemo pass helps out alot in this area. It was one of the reasons I switched over from Mt. Snow -twice the terrain. As far as Gore shutting down alot of therrain, I don't get it. It must hurt mid week pass and day ticket sales. Folks considering 7 day passes may also back off because of this. Let's face it, there are mid week days where areas lose money. It'd just part of the business. To be competitive they have to offer a good product 7 days a week. Just think what a first time skier at Gore thinks when lots of terrain is closed. The chances of getting them back goes down alot when this happens.

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