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Posted: Nov 24, 2010 - 10:47 PM GMT

From WPTZ and other sources. A couple of days ago but I thought someone else would comment

Norwich U. Gets $1.4M For Outdoor Recreation
Project Named After John Shaw, Former Norwich Instructor, Norwich University
NORTHFIELD, Vt. -- A graduate of Vermont's Norwich University is pledging $1.4 million to build a four-season recreational facility on Paine Mountain, near the school's Northfield campus.

The gift by 1980 graduate Larry Costa of Nottingham, N.H., will be part of a project to build a series of hiking, mountain-biking and snowshoeing trails on the former ski hill.

The project will be named after John Shaw, a 20-year Army veteran and former Mountain Cold Weather instructor at Norwich who was a mentor to Costa. Shaw died in 2006.

Norwich said the two men co-founded Worldwide Language Resources, a company that provides multi-lingual interpreters and translators.




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Posted: Nov 24, 2010 - 11:18 PM GMT

When I saw reborn I was hoping for more than hiking trails. I think the NELSAP hiking is cooler then marked trails they will do. It would be cool if they cleared a sledding hill and/ or a walk up ski run. With $1.4 mil those trails could have some fancy benches and garbage cans.
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Posted: Nov 24, 2010 - 11:25 PM GMT

I'm hoping that someone will see the advantage of a lift for the mountain biking, a la Sugarbush and then perhaps....
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Posted: Nov 24, 2010 - 11:42 PM GMT

looks like more a stillbirth to me ..

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Posted: Nov 25, 2010 - 1:47 AM GMT

1.4 mil, or even a share of that could make a nice lift serviced mountain bike area, like Highlands, NH. Also lift served hiking. I have never been to Northfield, VT, so I dont know how the townsfolk would like the idea. Im sure the alumni wouldnt care. When they were there the ski area was know for racing programs.-- If they have snowshoe trails does that mean X-c trails also? Or do the trails get used in such a different way that they couldnt work together?
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Posted: Nov 25, 2010 - 1:39 PM GMT

The new NU outdoor facility will be awesome. As far as lift served mountain biking or skiing it's not possible with 1.4m. I guess some do not realize how expensive even a small lift would cost as it would take a major chunk of the endowment.

Northfield is pretty close to the Bush, about 18 miles. Many Sugarbush employees commute over the gap from Northfield everyday, the Bush has hosted their alumni homecoming every fall for years, many students get the cheap college pass and every week throughout the ski season busloads of the cadets come to ski and ride. I like those kids, so polite, so refreshing.

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Posted: Nov 25, 2010 - 2:08 PM GMT

funny thing, is that there are mtb trails all over the hill already......

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Posted: Nov 25, 2010 - 2:26 PM GMT

NU is a military college...I doubt they'd have any kind of mt. biking other than the sort that requires self-propelled ascending.

Was there last Saturday for the football game- nice place, very nice people. The field had a great view of the old ski area- looks like it was a fun place, but I can see how it would have had trouble holding snow with its exposure. Parked at the base of the old lift- no lifts left but the trails are clearly visible.
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Posted: Nov 25, 2010 - 4:52 PM GMT
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NU is a military college...I doubt they'd have any kind of mt. biking other than the sort that requires self-propelled ascending.

Was there last Saturday for the football game- nice place, very nice people. The field had a great view of the old ski area- looks like it was a fun place, but I can see how it would have had trouble holding snow with its exposure. Parked at the base of the old lift- no lifts left but the trails are clearly visible.


NU is a military college, the oldest in the country, but about half, maybe abit more than half are non-military, just regular kids going to a great small college.
They have a strong small college athletics program. The sport that they really going crazy for is hockey.

About 50lbs and several decades ago I played soccer and b-ball for a small Vermont private college and when we played them it was strange. It was the 60's after all. Our coach explained to us that they were like West Point light.
http://www.norwich.edu/campus/together.html

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Posted: Nov 25, 2010 - 11:30 PM GMT

West Point light? Jeezum crow! As an alum, we never like being compared to those who graduate from Hudson High! We're almost as old (1819) and our founder was the original commandant of USMA until he annoyed the President and got dismissed back in the day.

I worked the ski slope for work study as a patroller for all four of my years (rough gig, I know). A lot of good trails but you're right-- hard to hold snow with the west facing main trails. Under the lift line had some gnarly drops and the trail off to skier's right-- Lybrand, took you over and down into a valley with a long ski out, but well worth the effort. Some great woods trails as well off of that side that came down onto what was known as the chicken trail that returned back to the base area. We had an eclectic mix of stuff to work with-- everything from up-to-date cascade toboggans to ancient Sun Valleys, and then the totally off the wall "shure-stop" rescue sleds. The groomer used to come down on skier's left, cross over the field, cutting across the fall line, and finish his run on skier's right of the chair. Made every run before it got skied in an adventure.

My sense is that they will use the $$ to formalize the informal trail network up there, build some signage, perhaps some shelters and maybe even get a groomer for XC stuff. I know Mountain Cold Weather at NU would use it and the VTANG has a platoon of the mountain infantry at the armory there. I'm sure they'd appreciate some more stuff as well.

Thanks for all the compliments about the current students. Glad to hear that they're representing themselves well in public.

If someone keeps going east, they'll hit the hawk watch on Paine Mountain where there's an observation point for raptors winging south and north in season.

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Posted: Nov 26, 2010 - 12:12 AM GMT

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West Point light? Jeezum crow! As an alum, we never like being compared to those who graduate from Hudson High! We're almost as old (1819) and our founder was the original commandant of USMA until he annoyed the President and got dismissed back in the day.


Hudson High......I wasn't aware you needed a Congressional Appointment just to apply to NU like you do at the military acadamies. Semi-seriously tho the entrance sign says " America's First Military College " . I assumed that meant it's older than West Point?..sorry....Hudson High.

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Posted: Nov 26, 2010 - 3:31 PM GMT

Photog--

No, no congressional appointment needed for NU-- but the tuition there is more expensive than any potential bribe to get into a service academy.

We're the oldest private military college-- older than VMI, the Citadel, Texas A & M and the birthplace of ROTC. Main rivals is the Coast Guard Academy. Both schools send teams to try and commit acts of vandalism before the big football game. In my time a couple of ours donned scuba gear to put bumper stickers on boats at the CGA. They succeeded but got caught by shore patrol from the navy. See, there's a nuclear sub base just upriver and they get nervous when the sensors show unidentified swimmers in the water with a SSBN sailing...

West Pointers used to go into Engineers/Artillery and the like and many of ours went into first Cavalry and then Armor. Mountain Cold Weather folks would go Infantry if possible. Back in the day West Pointers would visit us for Boy Scout Jamborees and we'd swap stories and lies about life in the military colleges. I was blown away when during one such time two of them freaked out when they saw me loaded down with assorted weapons of mass fire power. They (at West Point) weren't allowed to even touch weapons without official supervision while the 'wick allowed cadets in the need to sign out weapons for displays, training, etc, etc. Interesting viewpoint from them about that. To us it was no big deal to go with an instructor, sign out various ironmongery and go run some tactical lanes on weekends. Had to work off the testosterone since the unofficial name of Norwich is "The monastery college of Vermont."

'Course, they still have a ski area though....

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