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joshua segal
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Posted: Nov 19, 2010 - 12:16 PM GMT

You're a passenger and you've agreed to share transportation costs (much more than just splitting gas).

On the way home, the car is stopped by the police and a $155 speeding ticket is forthcoming. Should the cost of the ticket be shared by the passengers or is this exclusively the driver's "cross to bear"?

Your opinions! I was the passenger and want to know what you all might do. I can see arguments both ways.


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Posted: Nov 19, 2010 - 12:39 PM GMT

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You're a passenger and you've agreed to share transportation costs (much more than just splitting gas).

On the way home, the car is stopped by the police and a $155 speeding ticket is forthcoming. Should the cost of the ticket be shared by the passengers or is this exclusively the driver's "cross to bear"?

Your opinions! I was the passenger and want to know what you all might do. I can see arguments both ways.


I don't see any passengers as being responsible...it was the driver's decision to break the law so he should pay the fine.

What if you got into an accident? Would you feel responsible for paying a portion of the damages?
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Posted: Nov 19, 2010 - 12:47 PM GMT

I feel they are only responsible if they were egging on the driver, saying "hey, go fast, go for it!". O/w, no.

The only time I got a ticket when speeding was in NH when I was going 77 in a 65. I was trying to get to Franconia Notch before dark, as it was starting to snow, but the roads were wet just north of Concord. I knew it would be getting rough father north and didn't want to be doing it in the dark. I was driving my college roommate back to college. He was 2 hours late, which was why I was speeding. When we got pulled over, he said to me "I have nothing to do with this" and proceeded to read a newspaper while the cop gave me a ticket. Needless to say, I was more than a little ticked off.

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Posted: Nov 19, 2010 - 1:09 PM GMT

About a hundred years ago I got one while driving to a Six Flags with a friend. I considered it 100% my fault and didn't expect a thing from my passenger. However he was nice enough to insist on paying for my admission to the park. I always thought that was a nice gesture, but certainly not necessary.
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Posted: Nov 19, 2010 - 1:28 PM GMT

This is strictly an opinion.
I think it depends on the dynamics of the situation. If driver was driving in a primarily responsible way and you were happy with driver's company and actions, and driver just gradually slipped into a faster speed that led to a surprising pull-over by police and ticket, then I think I would offer to pay a portion of the fine (for example $50 of the $155 fee) just for good relations with the driver, esp if the driver is not too well off financially. If driver was consciously speeding without your tacit support for such actions and is a jerk you don't care much about or want to see in the future, then I would leave payment of ticket entirely up to driver.

Back in the 1990s I did a 70 mile commute each way to work for many years. I joined a vanpool and was often the driver. One day I got a ticket for basically driving at the speed I always did. I was going about 15-20 MPH above the speed limit, but this was not much faster than the general flow in the fast lane of the interstate I was on. About five minutes after I got the ticket and resumed driving the dozen people in my vanpool immediately chipped-in and gave me cash for much of the cost of the ticket. They felt sorry for me and were grateful that I was doing the driving in a fast, but horribly busy section of I95 south of DC, something none of them wanted to do.

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Posted: Nov 19, 2010 - 2:03 PM GMT

I'd offer to help- likely the person will decline (if they are a friend).
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Posted: Nov 19, 2010 - 2:06 PM GMT

driver bears the fault.. unless he had a gun to his head.

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Posted: Nov 19, 2010 - 3:04 PM GMT

A few years back while still living in CT my brother and I were driving to Bromley. While driving through Jamaica, VT I was stopped for going 45 in a 25 mph zone. The trooper says, "We don't like people speeding through our villages". The fine was over $200.00!

At the end of the day we were making our way over to Lebanon, NH to stay overnight with our Mom and visit our brother. While driving down Rte 11 the serpentine belt in my car snapped . It cost $115.00 for a Sunday repair.

It was the most expensive single ski day of my life. I never even considered asking my brother for a dime.

The skiing that day was excellent btw.
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Posted: Nov 19, 2010 - 3:21 PM GMT

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I'd offer to help- likely the person will decline (if they are a friend).


I like this answer
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Posted: Nov 19, 2010 - 4:18 PM GMT

The true cost of the ticket is closer to $1000 if you consider the insurance surcharges over the next few years. Personally, I'd toss the driver some cash because it would make me feel better. That being said, if the driver is doing something really stupid, all bets are off.
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Posted: Nov 19, 2010 - 11:40 PM GMT

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You're a passenger and you've agreed to share transportation costs (much more than just splitting gas).

On the way home, the car is stopped by the police and a $155 speeding ticket is forthcoming. Should the cost of the ticket be shared by the passengers or is this exclusively the driver's "cross to bear"?

Your opinions! I was the passenger and want to know what you all might do. I can see arguments both ways.

Driver has total responsibility for any tickets! I don't tell people how to drive in their car but I try to always keep my own driving within 5 MPH of the limit. I have never got a ticket driving this way. If someone wants to share a ride with me, I will pay gas but I am not going to be held accountable if they speed and get caught unless I say "hey, we really need to step on it to make first chair" or something. But I don't see myself ever saying that. I don't step on it myself when I am running a little late (okay, maybe just a tiny little bit but that is my call and I wouldn't ask someone to help pay a ticket).

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Posted: Nov 20, 2010 - 12:37 AM GMT

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The true cost of the ticket is closer to $1000 if you consider the insurance surcharges over the next few years. Personally, I'd toss the driver some cash because it would make me feel better. That being said, if the driver is doing something really stupid, all bets are off.


I was heading up Route 28 in the Cats and got nailed while Jamesdeluxe and I and Ms Deluxe and another friend were actually TALKING about avoiding tickets. Unreal. I think we were 57 in a 45. The speed limit kept switching up and down, and you really have to pay attention.

It was a $200 fine and 4 POINTS which insurance agent told me would cost me $1000 over three years. $1200 total.

I ended up paying a local lawyer $500 to fix it. I paid a $98 fine and got no points.

I really felt manipulated by a carefully figured pricing structure.

Grrrr.

To be somewhat on topic, I never even considered asking for money.


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Posted: Nov 20, 2010 - 12:48 AM GMT

I agree that it is the drivers responsibility and the passengers are not responsible in any way.

Yet it is nice to atleast offer or contribute a little extra to the trip than you may have normally to make the driver feel better (I was thinking maybe 20 bucks). Unless of course the driver was going totally crazy and scared than he totally deserved the ticket and you shouldn't think of offering anything.

Jeremy's case seems a bit different because he was doing a friend a favor and in that case he should have taken responsibility for the ticket especially since he was speeding for his friend's benifit.

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Posted: Nov 20, 2010 - 10:40 PM GMT

The driver pays. Your relationship governs whether you contribute.

As for the points - when I was nabbed a couple of times in NYS during the 1990s I paid the bill and the points never showed in NJ. It is always about the money.
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Posted: Nov 21, 2010 - 2:41 AM GMT

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The driver pays. Your relationship governs whether you contribute.

As for the points - when I was nabbed a couple of times in NYS during the 1990s I paid the bill and the points never showed in NJ. It is always about the money.


3x for me on the Thruway/Northway. As you said paid it right away every time, and NEVER had the points show up in NJ.
Also, NEVER had one of my passengers cough up some $$$.
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Posted: Nov 22, 2010 - 8:50 AM GMT

Not often
But the last time, I was on I 87 NY Thruway. A truck was passing me at 75+ I was doing 70ish in a 65. Cop said 80. I think he clocked the truck next to me. Anyhow I had a crack in my windshield so I flulked inspection 2 days before. The ins co. made an apointment for the next week, to get it replaced, but I was headed to Kill. that w/e. So after some negoiations the trooper setteled for an expired inspection ticket. $50 no points.

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Posted: Nov 23, 2010 - 3:23 AM GMT

Question... If you get a speeding ticket in another state than the one you live in do the points go on your licence? Last in knew in PA they do not add points to your record from other states?
Also always challenge a ticket if you don't feel you deserved it. I have had 6 tickets in my life, 4 of which I challenged (2 I felt I deserved), 3 were dropped one was reduced to a failure to obey sign so no points. Twice the cop didn't show on court dae and I was found not responsible. The other two I told my story and they believed it. I have never heard of anyone having to pay a complete fine if they challenged a ticket, it was either greatly reduced or dropped. Not promtoing fast driving, I just feel often tickets are used as a money making scheme unfairly.
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Posted: Nov 23, 2010 - 4:56 PM GMT

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Question... If you get a speeding ticket in another state than the one you live in do the points go on your licence? Last in knew in PA they do not add points to your record from other states?


From wikianswers:

There is a thing called the Drivers License Compact. Member states report tickets to other member states.

Here a list of the states that participate in this reciprocation agreement.

Alabama, Alaska, Arizona, Arkansas, California, Colorado, Connecticut, Delaware, District of Columbia, Florida, Hawaii, Idaho, Illinois, Indiana, Iowa, Kansas, Kentucky, Louisiana, Maine, Maryland, Minnesota, Mississippi, Missouri, Montana, Nebraska, Nevada, New Hampshire, New Jersey, New Mexico, New York, North Carolina, North Dakota, Ohio, Oklahoma, Oregon, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, South Dakota, South Carolina, Tennessee, Texas, Utah, Vermont, Virginia, Washington, West Virginia, Wyoming

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Posted: Nov 23, 2010 - 11:13 PM GMT
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On the way home, the car is stopped by the police


Big difference between on the way home and on the way there for first chair.

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Posted: Nov 24, 2010 - 2:02 AM GMT

Whatever happened to personal responsibilitiy .. You speed - you get caught - you pay .. don't be expecting a hand out from the passenger.

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