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Will this early snowfall go to waste?

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tigerskier Profile \| Galleries Rank: Member Since: Oct 30, 2001 Posts: 533 Location:	Posted: Oct 30, 2008 - 5:18 PM GMT What's the consensus - do we think some of this early snowfall will actually be part of the base for the season or will it all melt off and be a wasted dump? Personally, I'm of the opinion that some resorts will get a little benefit out of this. Those 27" on top of windham should stick around for a little bit...but anyone? thoughts?

snowlife Profile \| Galleries Rank: Member Since: Sep 27, 2007 Posts: 142 Location:mtl	Posted: Oct 30, 2008 - 5:42 PM GMT Edited: Oct 30, 2008 - 7:29 PM GMT above the 3000-4000 mark it will mostly stay

newman Profile \| Galleries Rank: Member Since: Aug 21, 2008 Posts: 2124 Location:The mighty SKI WARD Shrewsbury MA	Posted: Oct 30, 2008 - 5:43 PM GMT All that snow will just slow everything down. Stops on mountain work. It will all wash away by the time any machine made base is down. Makes early season snowmaking a nightmare. Makes simple things a chore, like puting chair tower pads out. Any snowmaking equipment that is out is hidden by snow. The runoff will wash out new grading before the ground hardend. The parking lot will be a mud pit. They didnt want this amount of snow until snowmaking had a good start. The one good thing is it will sell season passes.

rocket21 Profile \| Galleries Rank: Member Since: Sep 13, 2001 Posts: 8404 Location:USA	Posted: Oct 30, 2008 - 6:17 PM GMT Perhaps some manmade base will remain, but I suspect most, if not all, natural on ski areas in the northeast right now will melt before December. __________ NewEnglandSkiHistory.com

4aprice Profile \| Galleries Rank: Member Since: Jan 16, 2006 Posts: 999 Location:Lake Hopatcong, NJ	Posted: Oct 30, 2008 - 6:45 PM GMT There's no way this snow will stay. We are only just past the 1/3 mark of fall, the grounds not frozen and we are due for a warm up anyway. What I do hope is that this is a precursor to a wonderful winter. Once we get past the 2/3's mark of fall then we can start looking for lasting snow. Alex Lake Hopatcong, NJ

snoman Profile \| Galleries Rank: Member Since: Apr 21, 2006 Posts: 130 Location:ny	Posted: Oct 30, 2008 - 7:09 PM GMT I agree...within a week there probably won't be even a trace of snow left

WoodCore Profile \| Galleries Rank: Member Since: Jan 13, 2002 Posts: 3134 Location:CT	Posted: Oct 30, 2008 - 11:49 PM GMT It's all going to melt away very quickly. __________ "Freedom often leads, but responsibility always follows close behind."

nelsap Profile \| Galleries Rank: Member Since: Nov 21, 2001 Posts: 3649 Location:Saratoga Springs, NY	Posted: Oct 31, 2008 - 12:06 AM GMT Just remember how fast the snow melted back a few years ago when Wildcat got that freak 4ft in October. They opened nearly 100%, but a few days later, it was almost all gone. JD __________ Jeremy Davis

photogf128 Profile \| Galleries Rank: Member Since: Apr 10, 2004 Posts: 2605 Location:MRV Vermont	Posted: Oct 31, 2008 - 1:29 PM GMT Any lower elevation snow will be gone by the weekend(slight cooldown) and most upper elevation snow will melt next week. A stripe of snow along the southside of upper trails in the shade will last the longest. Mother nature does not "waste" snow, only ski resorts do that. __________ facebook.com/profile.php?id=1454198707#!/pages/American-Photoart-Gallery/90884206988

manhattanskier Profile \| Galleries Rank: Member Since: Feb 14, 2004 Posts: 448 Location:	Posted: Oct 31, 2008 - 3:30 PM GMT Here is another question: Should ski areas be allowed to count this snow in their yearly snow totals given that it will be gone before the ski areas even open? I am pretty sure som, such as Belleayre, do count it. Seems to me they shouldn't count it but I was wondering what others thought.

mapnut Profile \| Galleries Rank: Member Since: Jul 31, 2002 Posts: 5062 Location:New York City	Posted: Oct 31, 2008 - 3:50 PM GMT Why sure, everybody counts all measurable accumulation, no matter how many times it melts. You may not know this, but they also subtract rainfall from snow depth. For instance, if they get 24 inches of snow and then 4 inches of rain, it only counts as 20 inches of snow.

Jimme Profile \| Galleries Rank: Member Since: Jan 25, 2002 Posts: 1208 Location:6 miles West of Jiminy Peak, MA	Posted: Nov 01, 2008 - 2:28 PM GMT Edited: Nov 01, 2008 - 2:31 PM GMT Quote: Here is another question: Should ski areas be allowed to count this snow in their yearly snow totals given that it will be gone before the ski areas even open? I am pretty sure som, such as Belleayre, do count it. Seems to me they shouldn't count it but I was wondering what others thought. For total snowfall, I say yes as long as they include From and To dates. Also I think this recent snow will be gone soon. Hopefully it's a sign of the Winter to come. __________ The Artful Dodger

rocket21 Profile \| Galleries Rank: Member Since: Sep 13, 2001 Posts: 8404 Location:USA	Posted: Nov 02, 2008 - 1:06 AM GMT At least here in NH, I think this dose of snow will melt. Wildcat 10/29/08: Bretton Woods 10/31/08: Waterville 11/01/08: __________ NewEnglandSkiHistory.com

catamount82 Profile \| Galleries Rank: Member Since: Jan 18, 2005 Posts: 573 Location:NJ	Posted: Nov 02, 2008 - 1:50 AM GMT "Will this early snowfall go to waste?" YES Even the 24-in Belleayre, Plattekill and the other Catskill areas received. __________ "Always drink upstream...from the herd"

montebedi Profile \| Galleries Rank: Member Since: Apr 02, 2007 Posts: 535 Location:Ridgewood, NY	Posted: Nov 02, 2008 - 6:04 AM GMT Edited: Nov 02, 2008 - 6:10 AM GMT This goes into the question if a tree falls in the woods and no one hears it, does it make a sound? So if snow falls on ski trails and no one skis it, does it matter?

elcamino57 Profile \| Galleries Rank: Member Since: Nov 09, 2003 Posts: 854 Location:Wilmington VT	Posted: Nov 03, 2008 - 1:59 AM GMT Agree, just got back from VT and took long way home today, only traces of snow left on mountains. When we first got up to Woodford Thursday, there was about 3 inches on the ground, when we left just little piles here and there. If temps stay low enough at night they will make snow to build up a base. Went by Jimmeny Peak and looked bad there. Better days ahead

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