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Will this early snowfall go to waste?

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Posted: Oct 30, 2008 - 5:18 PM GMT

What's the consensus - do we think some of this early snowfall will actually be part of the base for the season or will it all melt off and be a wasted dump?

Personally, I'm of the opinion that some resorts will get a little benefit out of this. Those 27" on top of windham should stick around for a little bit...but anyone? thoughts?
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Posted: Oct 30, 2008 - 5:42 PM GMT
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above the 3000-4000 mark it will mostly stay
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Posted: Oct 30, 2008 - 5:43 PM GMT

All that snow will just slow everything down. Stops on mountain work. It will all wash away by the time any machine made base is down. Makes early season snowmaking a nightmare. Makes simple things a chore, like puting chair tower pads out. Any snowmaking equipment that is out is hidden by snow. The runoff will wash out new grading before the ground hardend. The parking lot will be a mud pit. They didnt want this amount of snow until snowmaking had a good start. The one good thing is it will sell season passes.
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Posted: Oct 30, 2008 - 6:17 PM GMT

Perhaps some manmade base will remain, but I suspect most, if not all, natural on ski areas in the northeast right now will melt before December.

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Posted: Oct 30, 2008 - 6:45 PM GMT

There's no way this snow will stay. We are only just past the 1/3 mark of fall, the grounds not frozen and we are due for a warm up anyway. What I do hope is that this is a precursor to a wonderful winter. Once we get past the 2/3's mark of fall then we can start looking for lasting snow.

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Posted: Oct 30, 2008 - 7:09 PM GMT

I agree...within a week there probably won't be even a trace of snow left
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Posted: Oct 30, 2008 - 11:49 PM GMT

It's all going to melt away very quickly.

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Posted: Oct 31, 2008 - 12:06 AM GMT

Just remember how fast the snow melted back a few years ago when Wildcat got that freak 4ft in October. They opened nearly 100%, but a few days later, it was almost all gone.

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Posted: Oct 31, 2008 - 1:29 PM GMT

Any lower elevation snow will be gone by the weekend(slight cooldown) and most upper elevation snow will melt next week. A stripe of snow along the southside of upper trails in the shade will last the longest.

Mother nature does not "waste" snow, only ski resorts do that.

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Posted: Oct 31, 2008 - 3:30 PM GMT

Here is another question:

Should ski areas be allowed to count this snow in their yearly snow totals given that it will be gone before the ski areas even open?

I am pretty sure som, such as Belleayre, do count it.

Seems to me they shouldn't count it but I was wondering what others thought.
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Posted: Oct 31, 2008 - 3:50 PM GMT

Why sure, everybody counts all measurable accumulation, no matter how many times it melts.

You may not know this, but they also subtract rainfall from snow depth. For instance, if they get 24 inches of snow and then 4 inches of rain, it only counts as 20 inches of snow.
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Posted: Nov 01, 2008 - 2:28 PM GMT
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Here is another question:

Should ski areas be allowed to count this snow in their yearly snow totals given that it will be gone before the ski areas even open?

I am pretty sure som, such as Belleayre, do count it.

Seems to me they shouldn't count it but I was wondering what others thought.


For total snowfall, I say yes as long as they include From and To dates.

Also I think this recent snow will be gone soon. Hopefully it's a sign of the Winter to come.

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Posted: Nov 02, 2008 - 1:06 AM GMT

At least here in NH, I think this dose of snow will melt.

Wildcat 10/29/08:


Bretton Woods 10/31/08:


Waterville 11/01/08:


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Posted: Nov 02, 2008 - 1:50 AM GMT

"Will this early snowfall go to waste?"

YES

Even the 24-in Belleayre, Plattekill and the other Catskill areas received.

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Posted: Nov 02, 2008 - 6:04 AM GMT
Edited: Nov 02, 2008 - 6:10 AM GMT

This goes into the question if a tree falls in the woods and no one hears it, does it make a sound?

So if snow falls on ski trails and no one skis it, does it matter?
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Posted: Nov 03, 2008 - 1:59 AM GMT

Agree, just got back from VT and took long way home today, only traces of snow left on mountains. When we first got up to Woodford Thursday, there was about 3 inches on the ground, when we left just little piles here and there. If temps stay low enough at night they will make snow to build up a base. Went by Jimmeny Peak and looked bad there. Better days ahead

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