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Posted: Oct 20, 2008 - 3:37 PM GMT

After much speculation here's an update for all the SJer's
It has been a busy summer at the mountain, as I am sure everyone expected. We are excited to be now only 2 months away from opening (Friday, November 28th). As always, it is a rush to get it all done before the season.
In no particular order, here is what we have been up to:
1. Permitting for Real Estate construction is in the final stages. We hope to have all permits by the first of the year. We then apply to the Atty. General of NH to get approved to begin selling – probably around March 1st.
2. We have started construction of a model “cabin” at the top of the Barnyard lift, and hope to have it completed by Christmas.
3. A brand new snow groomer will be added to the two “snow cats” we purchased last year.
4. Snowmaking takes another major leap forward with the addition of about 20 new guns, plus the approval and installation of a pipe line to withdraw water from the Danbury Bog.
5. Northeast Peak Lift is gone and the terrain trail there has been widened 50 feet to skiers/riders right. That new section (currently being named) will have all natural terrain features – log slides and rails, rock drops, tree rides, etc. It is going to be amazing.
6. Raggamuffins is being upgraded with running water, new bathrooms, heat, and decorations. We now should be able to offer hot food and possibly have a beer/wine license for those sunny spring days on the deck.
7. Overlook Bistro, a new restaurant has been added by the windows looking out slopeside from the Wood-fired pizza area. It has been a great hit for locals on Friday, Saturday and Sunday nights this summer. This operation will continue throughout the winter.
8. We ran a Blues Brews and BBQ event in July and Moosapolooza a week ago. Both events were fun, well attended and successful. We also installed a “Low ropes course” for team-building and leadership training.
9. We have had 5 weddings this summer plus several other functions, and already have ten weddings booked for 2009.
There are more improvements, but hopefully you get the idea that we are continuing to move forward and look for more and more ways to make the overall experience better. I can’t promise as good a snow year as last season, but I am hoping for a repeat. See you on the slopes soon.


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Posted: Oct 20, 2008 - 4:08 PM GMT

Thanks for the updates. Sounds great. Is the NADS downhill going to happen at Ragged this year?
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Posted: Oct 30, 1954 - 12:24 PM GMT

unfortunately it is probably not going to happen
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Posted: Oct 20, 2008 - 7:32 PM GMT


Good to hear Ragged is coming around, keep us informed!

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Posted: Oct 20, 2008 - 7:38 PM GMT


The Northeast Peak Chairlift has been removed?

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Posted: Oct 20, 2008 - 9:39 PM GMT

Thanks for the update!

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Posted: Oct 20, 2008 - 11:30 PM GMT

I'm encouraged. Any reinforcements to the Spear triple??? While you got it up and running last year - it was sporadic. I must say, it did run without incident 1 day last year after 8" or so and you got a good look at the potential. I look forward to skiing there multiple days this season (mid week) - even with my Boyne pass now working at Loon.
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Posted: Oct 20, 2008 - 11:44 PM GMT

Whats the northeast peak lift?
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Posted: Oct 21, 2008 - 12:03 AM GMT

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An old double that served a smaller peak about midway up the mountain.


So, my question is: Where did Ragged get all of the money to do all of this?! If I remember correctly, didn't Ragged have a pretty bad season last season?


Also: Ragged only has 3 groomers?!?! How do you keep up with grooming on a mountain with that many trails with only 3 groomers!?
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Posted: Oct 21, 2008 - 12:37 AM GMT

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Also: Ragged only has 3 groomers?!?! How do you keep up with grooming on a mountain with that many trails with only 3 groomers!?


They seemed to do a good job last year, not a vast majority of trails and they left three or four trails natural.

As far as the season goes, don’t know about the numbers but it seemed like they had decent attendance and snow the one day I went.

Any plans for cutting more trails in the near future? Raggeds a fun mountain, the only thing I don’t like about Ragged is its lack of trail offerings, one more trail pod would make a huge difference in a days skiing-although I realize that would be years off one more trail off of spear would be nice. What’s up with those trails to the skiers far right of the mountain?

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Posted: Oct 21, 2008 - 1:36 AM GMT

Why was thr Northeast chair removed? No longer feasible with the six pack? Where did it go? Anyone buying it as parts or a whole? What kind of guns did they get? New?
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Posted: Oct 21, 2008 - 1:57 AM GMT
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So, my question is: Where did Ragged get all of the money to do all of this?! If I remember correctly, didn't Ragged have a pretty bad season last season?

Also: Ragged only has 3 groomers?!?! How do you keep up with grooming on a mountain with that many trails with only 3 groomers!?


Ragged got bought out in May 2007 by a developer.
Ragged sold

To say Ragged has had abit of a shakey history in the last few years is an understatement. I guess we will found out this winter.



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Posted: Oct 22, 2008 - 11:31 AM GMT

to answer a few questions
the northeast chair was superseeded by the six pack. It hadn't run in 3 yearsand would have required a massive amount of work to get it up to code. It has been sold to skytrans.
3 groomers is all we need at this stage.
There is plans (longterm) to develop another peak (pinnacle)
All the snow guns he have purchased are either HKD on Ratnik.
The spear lift still needs bullwheel bearings replaced and then it's strong as houses!
hope this helps, keep the q's comming
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Posted: Oct 22, 2008 - 11:54 AM GMT

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Also: Ragged only has 3 groomers?!?! How do you keep up with grooming on a mountain with that many trails with only 3 groomers!?


3 grooming cats are more than adequate for a mountain the size of Ragged. I suspect they could get most of the terrain groomed overnight with just two cats.

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Posted: Oct 22, 2008 - 12:48 PM GMT

I, for one, greatly enjoyed my two visits there last year. Best base lodge I have seen. And I loved Spear Mountain.
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Posted: Oct 22, 2008 - 2:18 PM GMT

Comparing this year's trailmap to past years, I noticed...

What happened to "Wilson's" - the black diamond to skier's right of the summit, and Pel's Pass (the black diamond connecting Sweepstakes and Rags to Riches)? Also, the Devil's Den glade is no longer marked as such - is that now off-limits, or just de-named?
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Posted: Oct 22, 2008 - 2:25 PM GMT

Hi jasone
What we have done is take some of the gladed trails off the trail map.
What was happening was we have so many gladed trails without snowmaking that when we had all trails open (glades excluded) we were only appeared to be 2/3 open even though the skiing was fantastic everywhere else. hope this makes sense
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Posted: Oct 22, 2008 - 6:35 PM GMT

jasone asks:
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What happened to "Wilson's" - the black diamond to skier's right of the summit...

To ski Wilson's required having someone leaving a car on the Andover side and driving back.

In my 10-years at Ragged, I only know of one or two groups who ever actually skied it. I suspect that "ragged employee" is right, that it was a smart decision to take it off the trail map.

Responding to "newman's" question, "ragged employee" said:
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the northeast chair was superseeded by the six pack.


I disagree with the answer. The previous ownership, through defered maintanance, allowed the lift to fall into gross disrepair and as such, the new management was right to remove it rather than repair it. However, on a busy day, I used to enjoy the availability of that chair and I suspect with the attempt to make the old cabin at the top of that chair into an on-hill restaurant, that the "Northeast Chair" would have made for nice access to it.

There were also days when the 6-pack wasn't open for wind-hold or maintenance that the "Northeast Chair" would be a nice-to-have.

Also, I think that removing the glades from the trail-count would have been a lot better than removing them from the trail map which is what many ski areas do.

For those not familiar with Ragged, when the snow is good in Spooks Gorge (the area between Ragged and Spear), it is better glade-skiing than the glades at most other NH areas.

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Posted: Oct 24, 2008 - 12:37 AM GMT

Thanks for the summary Josh. The long-term plan is to remove village green and relocate that for real estate. Then replace both village green and northeast peak with one lift(probably a fixed grip quad) going from the bottom of village to the top of northeast. This will require trail work through the chutes.
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Posted: Oct 24, 2008 - 1:00 AM GMT

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The spear lift still needs bullwheel bearings replaced and then it's strong as houses!


Thanks for the info. So are the bullwheel bearings being replaced prior to openning??


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