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Stein Eriksen hospitalized after on-slope collision

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songfta Profile \| Galleries Rank: Member Since: Jan 14, 2004 Posts: 564 Location:Washington, DC	Posted: Dec 20, 2007 - 9:03 PM GMT For those who've followed the history of ski racing, remember when the möbius flip was new, recall the blonde head shussing down Sugarbush in the 1960s, or have skied at Deer Valley since its opening: "Olympic skiing legend Stein Eriksen hospitalized after slope collision" (S.L. Tribune) The damage includes a badly broken wrist (surgery required), a broken clavicle and shoulder. He's still in hospital in Salt Lake City. Let's hope his recovery goes well, though it's unlikely he'll ski again this season. __________ Track my adventures at randomduck.com

nelsap Profile \| Galleries Rank: Member Since: Nov 21, 2001 Posts: 3653 Location:Saratoga Springs, NY	Posted: Dec 20, 2007 - 10:47 PM GMT Sorry to hear that - I just saw him last month at Sugarbush - wish him a speedy recovery. Jeremy __________ Jeremy Davis

roger47 Profile \| Galleries Rank: Member Since: Feb 21, 2007 Posts: 888 Location:	Posted: Dec 21, 2007 - 7:01 PM GMT I saw Stein at the Boston show the night before he received his award at Sugarbush, and posted this small item about him on OnTheSnow, for which I write: Stein. He always seemed to have an attractive blonde hanging about. I suggested that being a ski legend must be tough work. He replied, with a big smile, "Well no, not really."

skierpilot Profile \| Galleries Rank: Member Since: Apr 01, 2006 Posts: 632 Location:	Posted: Dec 26, 2007 - 12:14 AM GMT I also read that he had a concusion and two broken ribs. Also, the other person involved in the accident was a nine year old kid. Perhaps we should use this as an example of what can happen if do not ski safely,keep our head in the game and follow the skier's responsibity code. Just think about the outcome if a 200 lb. adult was involved.

tree skiing hippy Profile \| Galleries Rank: Member Since: Oct 04, 2007 Posts: 10 Location:VT	Posted: Dec 26, 2007 - 12:16 AM GMT that sucks, always check your speed and never olly blind rollers, easy style it bro

LaurieP Profile \| Galleries Rank: Member Since: Jan 04, 2002 Posts: 2160 Location:	Posted: Dec 26, 2007 - 3:15 AM GMT I just saw Stein at Sugarbush in November. I'm sorry to hear of the accident and wish him well in his recovery. __________ Born to ski...forced to work!http://teachski.com

rogerjack Profile \| Galleries Rank: Member Since: Aug 26, 2007 Posts: 918 Location:	Posted: Dec 26, 2007 - 12:11 PM GMT Edited: Dec 26, 2007 - 12:20 PM GMT That news URL didn't work for me. Quote: I also read that he had a concusion and two broken ribs. Also, the other person involved in the accident was a nine year old kid. Perhaps we should use this as an example of what can happen if do not ski safely,keep our head in the game and follow the skier's responsibity code. Just think about the outcome if a 200 lb. adult was involved. Reading this made me realize that even well known >>legends<< aren't exempt from collisions with young punks. It just seems to be one of those dangers of old age. You slow down, but become an obstacle for those that have so little wisdom and so much hutspah. My own similar accident still nags me three years almost to the day afterwards. I didn't break anything, but sorely damaged the muscles of my leg, the tendon of the Sartorius, and various ligaments in my ankle and knee. I weight over 200 lbs. I skied away from the scene of the accident before a Patroller appeared, but left the teen punk that hit me writhing and moaning on the snow with the pack of friends he had around him. The impact of the valgus force that injured my leg jammed the binding on that leg so badly that it could not pass the binding check. The guy who performed the test was rather shaken that someone might have been skiing in it. When I checked with the First Aid station, the told me no one had been brought in, and I wonder if the blonde primadona hadn't been putting on an act. However, slamming into me had it's consequences, I'm sure, but recover times are rather different for a teenager or 9 year old than they are for someone much senior . When something like this happens to an old man like Stein, it will take him much longer to recover and all my best wishes go out to him in this time of need.

rogerjack Profile \| Galleries Rank: Member Since: Aug 26, 2007 Posts: 918 Location:	Posted: Dec 26, 2007 - 12:28 PM GMT Googling the subject matter, I found the latest news: >> The injuries and surgery left Eriksen in a difficult state, Haroldsen said. "He wasn't doing well. He was in and out of consciousness." On Saturday, Eriksen celebrated his 80th birthday with 350 guests at a gala at the lodge that bears his name. A life-size bronze statue of skier was unveiled in front of the Stein Eriksen Lodge. << >>The other skier was a 9-year-old boy, Reardon said. Deer Valley would not identify him, but Reardon said he was visiting Utah for the holidays. He was treated and released from a Salt Lake City-area hospital, she said. <<

dmc Profile \| Galleries Rank: Member Since: Feb 17, 2005 Posts: 376 Location:Hunter, NY	Posted: Dec 27, 2007 - 1:12 AM GMT Quote: I skied away from the scene of the accident before a Patroller appeared, but left the teen punk that hit me writhing and moaning on the snow with the pack of friends he had around him. In many states that is illegal... And after reading your post... I'm glad... Someone has to protect minors from 200lb adults that leave them "writhing and moaning on the snow". __________ DMCs Interactive Tuckerman Ravine Map

rogerjack Profile \| Galleries Rank: Member Since: Aug 26, 2007 Posts: 918 Location:	Posted: Dec 27, 2007 - 12:39 PM GMT Edited: Dec 27, 2007 - 12:50 PM GMT I don't recommend waiting for the patrol shivering in the snow if you are the victim in an accident, and they don't show up in a timely manner. If you need help and can either provide it or seek it yourself, do it. I skied to the nearby first aid station and reported the accident. DMC, you are a rather sick fellow as exhibited by your post, and I should like you to seek that help you can find elsewhere. I suspect this prima-donna punk was faking his pain in both the hope he would get more sympathy from his girl friends and would avoid reprisals from me. He had his friends to take care of him and did not need me. As to an update on Stein this was the latest news: >>Article Last Updated: 12/24/2007 12:00:12 PM MST Stein Eriksen, the legendary skier who was seriously injured Dec. 16 in a collision at Deer Valley, was released from University Hospital over the weekend. The Norwegian native, who captured gold and silver medals at the 1952 Winter Games and later became director of skiing at Park City and then Deer Valley, suffered several injuries after colliding with another skier. Surgeons operated on his severely broken wrist last week. He also suffered a broken collar bone and shoulder blade, as well as two fractured ribs, according to family friend Mark O. Haroldsen. <<

dmc Profile \| Galleries Rank: Member Since: Feb 17, 2005 Posts: 376 Location:Hunter, NY	Posted: Dec 27, 2007 - 1:13 PM GMT Edited: Dec 27, 2007 - 1:14 PM GMT Quote: DMC, you are a rather sick fellow as exhibited by your post, and I should like you to seek that help you can find elsewhere. I suspect this prima-donna punk was faking his pain in both the hope he would get more sympathy from his girl friends and would avoid reprisals from me. He had his friends to take care of him and did not need me. I am not a sick fellow as you so cutely coin me... I am a person that would never leave the scene of an accident because it's the correct thing to do. And I don't suspect when it comes to injury... I wait until someone comes on site to understand the nature of the injury and I will add whatever commentary the patroller needs to help diagnose the injury.. Be a man next time... Stay with the injured... Don't turn your back on people you may've hurt.. It's how humans are supposed to live in a civilized society.. You talk like your a real hard ass man with "reprisals"... Well be man... And stay with the person.. __________ DMCs Interactive Tuckerman Ravine Map

Jimme Profile \| Galleries Rank: Member Since: Jan 25, 2002 Posts: 1208 Location:6 miles West of Jiminy Peak, MA	Posted: Dec 28, 2007 - 8:34 PM GMT At Jackson Hole a boarder was sliding backwards on the trail's side and I had to yell because I don't think they saw me. They turned at the last moment and sped away. I had some grumblings about the near hit and with about 2500 acres to ski on, my buddy and I had a full frontal collision! Yard Sale! Ski's and poles everywhere. Luckily we were not going too fast and had no injuries. I had made an unexpected turn to avoid another buddy who had fallen. The moral: 2 good skiers, not skiing fast, 2500 acres and we still collided. That's why they are called accidents. __________ The Artful Dodger

LaurieP Profile \| Galleries Rank: Member Since: Jan 04, 2002 Posts: 2160 Location:	Posted: Dec 28, 2007 - 10:59 PM GMT Edited: Dec 28, 2007 - 11:01 PM GMT Quote: ... I skied away from the scene of the accident before a Patroller appeared, but left the teen punk that hit me writhing and moaning on the snow with the pack of friends he had around him... I'm sorry Rogerjack, but if I had seen this post before your second one I would of reacted in the same way. 1.)You said nothing about waiting for patrol then leaving. 2.) You said nothing about telling the patrol about the kid when you got to patrol. 3.) It sounded like you fled the scene of an accident (which technically, you did do). You should of waited for the patrol to arrive if not for your injury for the teen, whether he was hurt or not. As an adult you should of seen that the patrol look at that kid. You should of provided that patroller with a description of the accident at the scene. If that kid had been injured all information they got about the accident could help determine mechanism of injury. Are you aware that some internal injuries are not immediately evident? It is possible that the kid that collided with you actually was hurt but acting on your lead left the scene and did not get treatment. Who knows shat happened later...he may have ended up in an emergency room. I was a patroller at a small area for 15+ years. We had a situation like the one you described, only in our case the kid came in for treatment and the adult left the area. The impact caused broken ribs in the adult which went untreated. He developed a blood clot which caused him to have a stroke. Fortunately, he lived, but has partial paralysis because of this. In another case, the kid fell going over a jump. He refused treatment but because he was a minor we decided he needed treatment. He wanted to go home and go to bed. Given the mechanism of his injury he was backboarded and sent by ambulance. He had a bruised spleen which was extremely swelled when he got to the hospital. They monitored it and decided to remove it. We were told that if we had not treated the injury as we had it may have ruptured and he might of died. Please, in the future, do not leave the scene of an accident if anyone appears to be injured regardless of the time you think you are waiting for patrol. You probably were not waiting as long as you think you were. If you were at a large area the patrol may have responded shortly after you left and treated the kid taking him to an awaiting ambulance for all you know. You may have gone to a different aide station. It is possible that one station did not know that patrollers had responded to the accident, you may have given the wrong location. __________ Born to ski...forced to work!http://teachski.com

LaurieP Profile \| Galleries Rank: Member Since: Jan 04, 2002 Posts: 2160 Location:	Posted: Dec 28, 2007 - 11:00 PM GMT Glad to hear Stein is doing better and has been released. __________ Born to ski...forced to work!http://teachski.com

rogerjack Profile \| Galleries Rank: Member Since: Aug 26, 2007 Posts: 918 Location:	Posted: Jan 02, 2008 - 3:13 PM GMT Edited: Jan 02, 2008 - 3:15 PM GMT Thanks for the lecture LaurieP, but I only read the first few sentences before I decided to reply. I disagree adamently. If someone violently blindsides you , hitting you from behind, you have every right to leave him to rot until he dies and take care of yourself. The idea that I had to wait for the Patrol strikes me as rather abhorent. The best thing for my injured muscles was continue use. Waiting around in the cold for people who I consider useless while my leg stiffened up would have been futher trouble for me. The fact is I rode the Superstar lift and skied Great Northern before I checked in at the aid station. I believe that the Patrol at Killington should have stopped this gang from riding the slopes like they were. Killington staff doesn't do a damn thing about these roaming bands of punks with snowboards that cause others so much grief. I don't go their anymore. DMC may not be sick, but his thinking is.

dmc Profile \| Galleries Rank: Member Since: Feb 17, 2005 Posts: 376 Location:Hunter, NY	Posted: Jan 02, 2008 - 3:29 PM GMT Quote: DMC may not be sick, but his thinking is. It's law... You have to wait... It wouldn't be too "Swift" to ski away... __________ DMCs Interactive Tuckerman Ravine Map

roger47 Profile \| Galleries Rank: Member Since: Feb 21, 2007 Posts: 888 Location:	Posted: Jan 03, 2008 - 10:21 AM GMT dmc, I did not pierce the veil of obscurity as swiftly as you.

rogerjack Profile \| Galleries Rank: Member Since: Aug 26, 2007 Posts: 918 Location:	Posted: Jan 03, 2008 - 11:47 AM GMT Edited: Jan 03, 2008 - 12:20 PM GMT Live Free or Die.

rocket21 Profile \| Galleries Rank: Member Since: Sep 13, 2001 Posts: 8419 Location:USA	Posted: Jan 03, 2008 - 12:41 PM GMT Not a good idea skiing away, especially considering they were minors. Even if the minor wasn't hurt, they could have reported you to the authorities and changed the story to be something like, "this guy hit us the took off" - if they had their stories together, they'd have a halfway decent case in court due to the adult fleeing the scene. __________ NewEnglandSkiHistory.com

rogerjack Profile \| Galleries Rank: Member Since: Aug 26, 2007 Posts: 918 Location:	Posted: Jan 04, 2008 - 12:23 PM GMT First of all, you weren't there and don't know what the scene was. You would have had to find me to read your riot act and that would have been next to impossible, given the situation. Second, my experiences don't really compare to the title of this thread. Third, I was actually looking for a patroller or one of those ambassadors when I got on Superstar chair. I had seen one at the top when I was there on that run. With a six minute ride time, he might still have been up there. Lastly, I wonder if Stein Eriksen has ever hit anyone. Probably not. In fact, here's a man that was not only accustomed to skiing at high speeds, he was one of the best at it. I seriously doubt if anyone would question whether or not Stein was at fault in any collision. I imagine that he was either moving slowly in a group or stationary when he was taken fully by surprise and rendered unconscious. Is that a gross mis-justice or what?

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