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Posted: Mar 19, 2007 - 4:26 PM GMT

Roger, Have you heard that the number of African Elephants has been grossly under estimated too?

(BTW my Wolf faux-pas was started by a land owner in Maine with vastly inadequate information, perhaps he referenced Wikipedia?)

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Posted: Mar 19, 2007 - 6:15 PM GMT

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Hey Scott,

I heard something -- was it on a Talk Show that people were urged to swarm Wikipedia with misinformation on African elephants? Getting old, can't keep that kind of info straight.

The wolf pix were great. I really enjoyed seeing them, and had lots of fun backtracking (get it?) the story.

And Monadnock is probably my favorite mountain in the world - I climb it to get/stay in shape for more serious mountaineering. Sometime in there I started skiing up it - backcountry skis - in winter when conditions are right.

Take care.

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Posted: Mar 19, 2007 - 10:46 PM GMT

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[quote][quote] Whatever, I've included a panoramic photo which puts Ascutney in the center. It's prominent, but does not loom over a peneplain as you can see. [quote]

Somehow I missed Weedywart's post on March 2. Don't know whether he's challenging us to call him out on the photo he posted, but that's not a view of Vermont and Ascutney from Sunapee; it's looking south and is all NH. Possibly that's Monadnock in the distance on the right, but not Killington. He's posted that photo before. Ascutney from the top of Sunapee looks like this:

Now I know you are a fool if not worse, mapnut, worthy to be completely ignored. I took that picture and sent it on to Charlie Bass, a friend of mine, along with others from the 50th anniversary of Sunapee's existence. He applauded all of them and one is hanging in his office in Washington.

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Citing Wikipedia as a source is a bit like adopting "truthiness" as a basis of fact. It sure is easy to google stuff and get an answer from Wikipedia, but the answer is sometimes skewed, incomplete, or repetitious of erroneous information gleaned from some other cockamamie Web site. Sometimes it's right, but it's hard to tell when.

I wouldn't be so harsh, myself. They usually are in the right ballpark, although they may not hold a score card.

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What a sad sad sad day when the web can't be properly used as a reference. You guys are being ridiculous.

No, I'm sorry Scott or Smelnick, whatever you prefer, you are being ridiculous. You remind me of the way some people would think that any thing in print was true back when printing was not as common as it is today. Not only that your thinking resembles those who think that if it's printed in the Bible (almost always the Good News version), it must be true. Any information on the web is as suspect as any information in print.

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Posted: Mar 19, 2007 - 11:10 PM GMT

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Right now I'm looking at the Rand McNally New Cosmopolitan World Atlas's Vermont map on page 120. Monadnock 3140 is directly NW of Bald Mtn 3315 and W of Gore Mtn. 3330 ft. Looking at Jonni's photos which I assume were taken with the same camera and lens. I see Bald Mtn. prominantly displayed in one. Consequently, I assume both Gore and Monadnock can be seen from a distance. West Mtn. 2710 should be in the same view, but it is much closer to Burke Mtn than the other two. In fact it looks like it is half the distance. I believe this is the prominent Mtn. in the photo and that it blocks the view of Monadnock. I seriously doubt if any one posting or even reading here has ever been in this part of the country. It is famous for being remote and even more famous for being wild. You guys are just too tame.

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Posted: Mar 20, 2007 - 12:38 AM GMT

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Now I know you are a fool if not worse, mapnut, worthy to be completely ignored. I took that picture and sent it on to Charlie Bass, a friend of mine,
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That must prove he's right. Too bad he couldn't completely ignore me.

Woo hoo! At last my very own Weedywart insult! The more right one is, the stronger the language.

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Posted: Mar 20, 2007 - 12:24 PM GMT

Mapnut, you make it quite obvious why the internet fails to serve as a good source for the truth.

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Posted: Mar 20, 2007 - 1:34 PM GMT

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Chris, can we lock this thread? I think it has officially sunk to the kindergarten level...

Thanks,

Scott Melick (aka smelick)

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Posted: Mar 20, 2007 - 2:30 PM GMT

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Mapnut, you make it quite obvious why the internet fails to serve as a good source for the truth.

Speaking of the truth,who are you today,Weedy,Lumberjack,or Swifty?

Didn't mean to stoop to this but when anyone degrades the Good Book I can't help but stand up for the Way,the Truth,and the Life.

Yes this has sunk to Pre-K

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Posted: Mar 20, 2007 - 3:48 PM GMT

Anyways, does it matter whether or not wiki is official. Weedywart, welcome to the 21st century!!!, maybe you haven't noticed but computers are becoming part of almost everyones daily routine and wiki is becoming a very reliable source. For example now I can use wiki as a source and so can my brother who goes to Boston Latin School, one of the best middle schools in the country.

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Posted: Mar 21, 2007 - 9:43 AM GMT

As has been demonstrated often here, computer use has led to an epidemic of autism amongst Americans. Nevertheless, Monadnock may not be an interesting ski, but it's a great climb enjoyed by millions.

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Posted: Mar 21, 2007 - 5:29 PM GMT

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Looselumberjack, glad you joined the conversation. Can you apply your map and navigation skills to identify the mountain to the left of Killington (and closer) in this view from Sunapee? Weedywart insists it's not Ascutney, which he says is in an entirely different direction.

Much Later Edit: Old thread Now I remember how I knew this.
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Posted: Mar 21, 2007 - 5:47 PM GMT

Ut Oh,I feel turbulence in the jet stream,the seat belt sign is now on,the captain has asked that we all return to our seats and fasten our belts,the air traffic is crouded and this prabably means we will be late in our landing!

I'm sorry, it's crowded and probably will be delays!

Map,nice pic

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Posted: Mar 22, 2007 - 1:33 AM GMT

Even though I'm not looselumberjack, I feel compelled to put my 2c in. Here's the shot from Sunapee on Google maps. (However, I have a feeling that the integrity of Google maps will be questioned.) Call me crazy, but that shot the looks right on mapnut - Ascutney front and center.

-Scott
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