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Birdseye, VT Totally updated...our biggest update ever!

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nelsap Profile \| Galleries Rank: Member Since: Nov 21, 2001 Posts: 3649 Location:Saratoga Springs, NY	Posted: Dec 09, 2006 - 12:34 AM GMT I've been working on this update for literally years, in different phases, but its finally done! Birdseye, VT We have tons of historical pictures, the full history of the mountain, current pictures, and comparison shots. This is the biggest update on NELSAP ever. We even have more shots to add in the future! Let me know your comments. And be patient letting it load. Jeremy __________ Jeremy Davis

djspookman Profile \| Galleries Rank: Member Since: Nov 05, 2004 Posts: 1036 Location:Jericho, VT / Westmoreland, NH	Posted: Dec 09, 2006 - 12:54 AM GMT Edited: Dec 09, 2006 - 12:56 AM GMT WOW! Nice update Jeremy! I really love all the old pics and the detailed history! Thanks!!!! Oh, and the last 2 pics before the 2003 pics aren't clickable like the text says. dave __________ Skiing is life......

riverc0il Profile \| Galleries Rank: Member Since: Jan 05, 2002 Posts: 3185 Location:Ashland, NH	Posted: Dec 09, 2006 - 12:57 AM GMT cool! last time i drove route 4 into NY, i was looking at the mountains thinking there must have been something there at one point. nice article. __________ TheSnowWay.com

WoodCore Profile \| Galleries Rank: Member Since: Jan 13, 2002 Posts: 3134 Location:CT	Posted: Dec 09, 2006 - 1:31 AM GMT Awesome job Jeremy. Easily the best page on NELSAP. __________ "Freedom often leads, but responsibility always follows close behind."

photogf128 Profile \| Galleries Rank: Member Since: Apr 10, 2004 Posts: 2605 Location:MRV Vermont	Posted: Dec 09, 2006 - 2:54 AM GMT Edited: Dec 09, 2006 - 3:06 AM GMT My wife will love checking this out. She is a Rutland native and close to the Jenkins. Debbie, Bills daughter, and her were best friends and still get together every so often. Bill is a very interesting guy and last time I was at their house I enjoyed the stories he told about Birdseye. My wife grew up skiing at Birdseye and also claims to be the first woman liftie at kmart in the mid 70's. She gets upset when I says "claims". Great work! spook.....I think you know Bill Jenkins daughter...she and her husband own the bike shop in Jeffersonville where if memory serves you lived in the back. __________ facebook.com/profile.php?id=1454198707#!/pages/American-Photoart-Gallery/90884206988

Chris Profile \| Galleries Rank: Member Since: Apr 19, 2001 Posts: 2720 Location:New Hampshire	Posted: Dec 09, 2006 - 3:24 AM GMT I was able to check out Birdseye a few years ago on my way back from a trip to NY. The place was really cool, and this latest NELSAP update answers a lot of my questions. I think Birdseye seemed very well thought out in it's original vision. The stabil disc lift was a unique choice and had a lot going for it. The mountain's snowmaking philosophy was ahead of it's time! It's too bad it never progressed beyond the beginning stages. Underhill, vt also had one of those lifts, didn't they?? __________ SnowJournal.com

nelsap Profile \| Galleries Rank: Member Since: Nov 21, 2001 Posts: 3649 Location:Saratoga Springs, NY	Posted: Dec 09, 2006 - 3:31 AM GMT Edited: Dec 09, 2006 - 3:32 AM GMT Hey Chris, Yes, Underhill had one - and as a matter of fact, is my next big update too..... Earlier versions that were closer to the ground were found at Temple, NH and Burrington, VT, and Green Mtn College, VT. Glad everybody likes the update! Jeremy __________ Jeremy Davis

eeyore Profile \| Galleries Rank: Member Since: Feb 25, 2004 Posts: 159 Location:New Hampshire	Posted: Dec 09, 2006 - 2:21 PM GMT Question: Headed out of Rutland towards NY which side of rt. 4, left or right? I have climbed up to where the hang gliders take off from but believe that was referred to as West Rutland. Never noticed a ski area, but was not really looking! Girlfriend of a few years ago lived in Hubbardton. Thanks! Jeremy, WOW!!!!!, great content, you out did yourself! Love to see that much content on the areas I grew up at (Oak Hill, Hanover NH & Klein Innsbruck, Franklin, MA (Sorry I see some updates, good job))!

wanderingskis Profile \| Galleries Rank: Member Since: Apr 10, 2006 Posts: 742 Location:Rindge, NH	Posted: Dec 09, 2006 - 2:55 PM GMT Wow, Jeremy!!! I'm impressed. Even though I only got a chance to read half of it so far, it's really really really really good. Keep it up!

photogf128 Profile \| Galleries Rank: Member Since: Apr 10, 2004 Posts: 2605 Location:MRV Vermont	Posted: Dec 09, 2006 - 3:45 PM GMT Quote: Question: Headed out of Rutland towards NY which side of rt. 4, left or right? I have climbed up to where the hang gliders take off from but believe that was referred to as West Rutland. Never noticed a ski area, but was not really looking! Girlfriend of a few years ago lived in Hubbardton. Thanks! Jeremy, WOW!!!!!, great content, you out did yourself! Love to see that much content on the areas I grew up at (Oak Hill, Hanover NH & Klein Innsbruck, Franklin, MA (Sorry I see some updates, good job))! It's between West Rutland and Castleton, it's on your left heading towards NY. I could never see it from RT 4 as it's pretty grown over. Easy to find....drive on 4A, the old rd before the divided highway was built, take a left on Birdseye Rd and there you are. My brother went to Castleton State College, we used to call it, "the Harvard of Rutland County".... __________ facebook.com/profile.php?id=1454198707#!/pages/American-Photoart-Gallery/90884206988

joshua segal Profile \| Galleries Rank: Member Since: Jul 12, 2004 Posts: 5941 Location:NH	Posted: Dec 09, 2006 - 10:04 PM GMT When I attended RPI in the 1960's, I used to pass Birdseye whenever I drove to Killington (although I never skied Birdseye). It looked like it might have great potential as Jeremy's page on Birdseye would indicate. There had apparently been an attempt at some real estate development which was not mentioned in the NELSAP covereage. I remember a number of A-Frames really near the Birdseye site. When I looked for some vacation property near Killington in 1975 (would that I had bought something), the places near Birdseye were selling in the low 20's. Had they been east of Killington, closer to Woodstock, I might have considered them. But at the time, I didn't even look. __________ Joshua Segal

rstuthill Profile \| Galleries Rank: Member Since: Apr 03, 2005 Posts: 1775 Location:Bolton, CT	Posted: Dec 10, 2006 - 2:48 PM GMT Quote: Yes, Underhill had one - and as a matter of fact, is my next big update too..... Dorothy and I just drove by Underhill on Thanksgiving weekend. The place looks like it could be revived at any time as a local private fun spot for folks to get in a few turns after work or when they were too busy to devote a whole weekend day to Smuggs or Stowe. Underhill has gained a lot of population in the last few decades. Huge annual snowfall to boot. That is one place that probably would NOT need snowmaking. Jeremy, just a super job or Birdseye!!

nelsap Profile \| Galleries Rank: Member Since: Nov 21, 2001 Posts: 3649 Location:Saratoga Springs, NY	Posted: Dec 10, 2006 - 3:54 PM GMT Really appreciate all your positive comments! I want to try to do more of these mega updates. Its all about contacting the right people that operated them, and have all the good archives. Nothing beats a former owner - you get their story, pictures, archives, etc. Much of former operators materials are just stored away...its fascinating to get the rarely if ever seen pictures up and visible online for all to see. Big areas that I'm considering for updates: Temple, King Ridge, Maple Valley, Snow Valley, Hogback, Dutch Hill, Thorn Mtn. We also have another great source for Tolman Pond, NH. And have lots of current photos of Oak Hill, NH;Cardigan, NH;Berkshire Snow Basin, MA;North Creek Ski Bowl, NY; and many others. Stay tuned! JEremy __________ Jeremy Davis

maplevalleymaster Profile \| Galleries Rank: Member Since: Aug 06, 2005 Posts: 1129 Location:Ludlow, VT	Posted: Dec 11, 2006 - 4:38 AM GMT Wow Outstanding updates and great pics!

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