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Posted: Dec 06, 2006 - 10:57 PM GMT

Moving a lift in 2 Years? Ha Ha... Prediction: Booth Creek won't even own WV in 2 years... Most of BC's money, whatever they have left, borrowed or otherwise is going to Loon and you can spin it any way you want...Go see for yourself... WV has lost so much market share in the last 5 years or so that the local businesses there are forming their own marketing group to try to get it back...Maybe the next ownership group for WV will have the cash to do what is needed. It certainley won't be Booth Creek.
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Posted: Dec 07, 2006 - 1:21 AM GMT

WV has another 4 or 5 Stadeli chairs currently in operation, so while it might seem odd to re-locate and re-use a lift that's already over 30 years old, they probably have a lot of knowledge and parts to keep Stadeli chairs maintained and running smoothly. Just a thought...
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Posted: Dec 07, 2006 - 2:38 AM GMT

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Moving a lift in 2 Years? Ha Ha... Prediction: Booth Creek won't even own WV in 2 years... Most of BC's money, whatever they have left, borrowed or otherwise is going to Loon and you can spin it any way you want...Go see for yourself... WV has lost so much market share in the last 5 years or so that the local businesses there are forming their own marketing group to try to get it back...Maybe the next ownership group for WV will have the cash to do what is needed. It certainley won't be Booth Creek.


Actually, Waterville usually operates in the black (last year may have been an exception).
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Posted: Dec 07, 2006 - 1:16 PM GMT


Actually, Waterville usually operates in the black (last year may have been an exception). [/quote]



If they are, itís not by much and probably the same with Loon. The difference is.. in 2 words..real estate..Thatís where BC is making their money (according to their own quarterly reports that they used to make public). Thatís why the Loon investment and development where they have it.
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Posted: Dec 07, 2006 - 1:58 PM GMT

Absolutely right.....real estate is everything to ski area development.
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Posted: Dec 09, 2006 - 10:07 PM GMT

Real Estate is something that WV lacks in but that doesn't mean that Booth Creek can screw us over. With this new buyout will WV become Booth's main focus point.

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Posted: Dec 09, 2006 - 10:51 PM GMT

Why was the High Country cut so wide?
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Posted: Dec 10, 2006 - 1:44 AM GMT

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Why was the High Country cut so wide?



Probably to allow for skier volume "back in the day" when the HSQ went to the summit.
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Posted: Dec 10, 2006 - 9:37 PM GMT

Do they ever think of replanting some of the trees up there on High Country? Then they could open even earlier.

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Posted: Dec 11, 2006 - 12:50 PM GMT

Joni,

My understanding is that any possible expansion would not be from the Tecumseh Peak as you have depicted it in your drawings. I don't believe that they have permits for that area.

My understanding is that the area they would like to develop is to the right of their current peak (white peak) and would go from there down into the bowl and then connect with their existing trails at the bottom. I do not believe that they have permits for anything past the gorge that you can see in the middle of White Peak and Tecumseh.

The only other place they already have permits for expansion is green peak to the left of white peak.

As for if and when any expansion will take place, I will believe it when I see it.
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Posted: Dec 11, 2006 - 6:10 PM GMT

I agree that High Country was ruined when they cut all the trees. They should replant .

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Posted: Dec 11, 2006 - 6:50 PM GMT
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Trees take forever to grow at that altitude (3800 feet). And 6-foot live evergreens are not cheap. Does anyone know of a tree-planting project at high altitude?

I envisioned an expansion in this area as 2 or 3 expert trails to the north of High Country, and a new lift replacing both the Northside double and the High country double. The summit trails could then be skied continuously with Periphery for some good sustained runs. The difficulty would be the sidehill trail from the bottom of the expert trails back to the lift.

I just typed 5 out of 6 "teh" instead of "the" in taht paragraph.
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