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  • TomWhiteTomWhite advanced
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    Vermont reaches $5.9M settlement in ski resort probe                       


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    Posted: Thursday, June 30, 2016 3:46 pm

    MONTPELIER, Vt. (AP) — Vermont financial regulators said Thursday they have reached a $5.95 million settlement with a financial firm related to the fraud investigation of real estate developments at two northern Vermont ski resorts. The Department of Financial Regulation said it found Raymond James and Associates' Miami branch failed to comply numerous times with supervisory requirements and Vermont law.


    The department specifically cited Miami businessman Ariel Quiros, owner of Burke Mountain and Jay Peak ski resorts, and Bill Stenger, Jay Peak's president, and their use of accounts at Raymond James to transfer funds among investors, limited partnerships and other entities.

    Quiros and Stenger are accused by Vermont and the Securities and Exchange Commission of misusing about $200 million from foreign investors through a special visa program. The EB-5 program allows permanent U.S. residency for those who finance projects that create a certain amount of jobs.

    Both men have said they'll be cleared of any wrongdoing.

    Raymond James said in a statement it was pleased a settlement has been reached.

    The department said that under the settlement agreement, $4.5 million will go to the federal receiver overseeing the resorts and projects to reimburse possible claims by investors. Another $1.25 million will go to Vermont's general fund as an administrative penalty and $200,000 will be paid to state financial regulation for the investigation, the department said.

    "Since the SEC's seizure of the Jay Peak-related EB-5 projects, investors have been rightly concerned about possible recovery of funds. This settlement contributes to their restitution," department commissioner Susan Donegan said.

  • rickbolgerrickbolger expert
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    The only time the banker goes to jail is when he lands on the wrong space in a Monopoly game
  • steamboat1steamboat1 advanced
    edited July 2016 Posts: 250
    The SEC appointed receiver is suing Raymond James & there are also a couple of class action lawsuits by investors pending. They're not out of the woods yet.

    They were also recently fined $17m for not doing enough to prevent money laundering.
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    Jay, Burke Resorts to be Sold Separately

    Jess Aloe, Free Press Staff Writer 1:09 p.m. EDT July 20, 2016

    Jay Peak and Burke Mountain will be sold separately, according to receiver Michael Goldberg.

    A federal court in Miami seized control of both resorts in April after the Securities and Exchange Commission filed a complaint accusing owner Ariel Quiros and CEO Bill Stenger of perpetuating massive fraud related to the EB-5 program. Goldberg was appointed to oversee the operations of the resorts by the court.

    Under the EB-5 program, foreign nationals can invest $500,000 into a project in an economically depressed area in exchange for a conditional green card. If the investment generates enough jobs, the conditions for the visa can be lifted. The SEC has accused Quiros of misappropriating funds for his personal use and accused both Quiros and Stenger of using money raised for one project for a different project.

    Burke Mountain is the higher priority sale, Goldberg said on Tuesday, though both resorts will eventually be sold. The subcontractors who built the resort are owed millions of dollars and, as Quiros' assets have been frozen, may not be paid until the resort has changed hands.

    "I am working on other ways to attempt to get the contractors paid," Goldberg wrote in an email to the Burlington Free Press, although he declined to elaborate at this time.

    Goldberg said that he and his team have not focused on the sale of Jay Peak yet and he is unsure of the total value of the resort. He said the resort will most likely be sold as a package at the right time, though not if he can get a higher price selling it in parts.

    "We've been told that the current court proceedings underway most likely will take some time to reach a resolution," JJ Toland, the communications director for Jay Peak, said. "If Jay Peak were to be sold, we've been told it would be to a company that has extensive experience in running a resort such as ours."

    Both Jay and Burke are currently being run by the Leisure Hotels and Resorts, a hospitality management group with experience managing properties in receivership. In the court filing requesting approval of Leisure Hotels and Resorts, a lawyer from Goldberg's firm wrote that the group is "one of the preeminent resort management companies in the country."

    Parker Riehle, president of the Vermont Ski Areas, said he's been wondering about who will buy Burke and Jay. He said both resorts are remarkable, though he hasn't heard any rumors of potential buyers.

    "All I do know is this process could take a while," Riehle said, based on conversations he's had with Leisure Hotels and Management.

    Both resorts offer a lot to potential buyers, he said. Jay has the water park and the ice arena, among other new assets. He said he had recently seen the hotel at Burke, which plans to open this fall.

    "I was just floored, it's incredible," he said.

    Riehle said he wouldn't be surprised if offers for the resorts already existed, though he said he didn't expect the receiver to take the first offer on the table.

    There are few cases in history that provide some insight into what's ahead for Jay and Burke, but Riehle said the woes of Les Otten, the owner of the American Skiing Company that went bust in 2007, could provide an example of resorts that went through tough times and flourished.

    Otten began buying resorts in 1980, but by the 2000s investors began to believe he had overleveraged the many resorts he owned. He owned, among other resorts, Killington, Sugarbush and Mount Snow in Vermont.

    Mount Snow and Killington were bought by multistate mountain conglomerates, Missouri-based Peak Resorts and Utah-based Powdr. Both, Riehle said, have been enormously successful. Win Smith, the former Merrill Lynch executive and current chairman of the Vermont Business Roundtable, was the lead in a group of investors who bought Sugarbush in 2001.

    If Jay and Burke are bought by groups that operate multiple mountains, it's likely they could be added on to multi-mountain passes.

    "These things are big time sales leaders," Riehle said, since they allow skiers and snowboarders to visit more than one resort without having to purchase day tickets. Multi-mountain passes are a big draw in an era where the snow industry is focused on the challenge of keeping millennials on the snow.

    "We have to engage and convert two millennials for every baby boomer who leaves," Riehle said, since millennials have less free time and spend less money.

    Some watchers have said the ski industry is in trouble. According to data from the National Ski Areas Association, there were 470 ski areas in operation in 2014-15, down from 546 in 1991. In Vermont, a warm winter and a lack of snow led to one of the state's worst ski seasons.

    But while the receiver and courts may be looking at the long-term future, Jay Peak and Burke Mountain are focused day-to-day operations.

    Burke is focused on making sure their mountain bike park and hotel are ready for their opening on Sept.1, said Jessica Sechler, Burke's marketing manager.

    Toland, Jay Peak's director of communications, said customers should expect business as usual at the resort this winter. Season pass sales are about the same as they were this time last year, and sales of ski and ride lodging packages, including packages over holiday periods like Christmas, are up nearly 10 percent.

    "Add in the fact that we're expanding our snowmaking coverage and we're looking at a very promising winter," he said.

    - Sam
  • ski_itski_it expert
    edited September 2016 Posts: 1,476

    Hmmm Mr. Stenger is still getting $100,000 a year salary, Jay Condo and car expenses. So don't be surprised if you see him around this season.

    Edit 9/4: I'm a day late and a dollar short again. I guess you won't be seeing Bill around.

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  • bmwskierbmwskier advanced
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    "Making ski films is being irresponsible with other people's money, in a responsible sort of way..." 
    Greg Stump
  • rickbolgerrickbolger expert
    edited September 2016 Posts: 929
    Stenger turning on Quiros was predicted by a few people here (not me, although I figured it was possible)
  • bmwskierbmwskier advanced
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    "Making ski films is being irresponsible with other people's money, in a responsible sort of way..." 
    Greg Stump
  • rickbolgerrickbolger expert
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    The comment after that VPR story speaks volumes:

    Again, if someone like you or me walks into a gas station and takes $200 out of the cash register, we get a felony conviction, we're sent to jail, we are denied the right to vote, and finding future employment has become a LOT more difficult so that when we do get released, we're 90% more likely to commit another crime. When a wealthy investor steals $200 million from investors, he gets to walk away just as long as he can pay some of it back and agrees to never work on this type of investment again...

    Yes, I understand that Bill Stenger is a likable guy and he's done some good things for the Northeast Kingdom. But that doesn't change the fact that he committed a crime and likely did terrible harm to those who trusted him. $200 million is a LOT of money, not to mention the enormous expense the state just went through to sort out all this mess in Court. Now Mr. Stenger gets to walk away without "admitting to any wrongdoing" (translation - anybody who wants to sue him for ruining their lives will have to start a new lawsuit at their own expense), the "big hole" in the middle of Newtown won't be going anywhere, and the status of the EB-5 investors remains unresolved.

    I'm sorry, this doesn't sound like Justice to me. To me, it's just another example of our two-tiered injustice system

  • bousquet19bousquet19 advanced
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  • obienickobienick expert
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    This isn't anything about justice.  This is a civil case.  They have yet to file a criminal complaint.  

    But you're forgetting one important tidbit:  Stenger is testifying against Quiros.
  • rickbolgerrickbolger expert
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    obienick said:

     They have yet to file a criminal complaint.  

  • obienickobienick expert
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    There's a substantially higher burden of proof for a criminal complaint (beyond a reasonable doubt ... aka 12/12 jurors) vs. a civil complaint (preponderance of the evidence ... aka 7/12 jurors).  I've heard a criminal complaint is in the works.  Supposedly the SEC always does these suits first to stop the fraud and gain control ASAP.
  • TomWhiteTomWhite advanced
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    ropeways.net | Home | 2016-09-13


    (East Burke, VT): Burke Mountain Resort cut the ribbon on the first hotel to ever open on its slopes. 

    The Burke Mountain Hotel & Conference Center debuted with limited operations last month with two soft opening weekends as staff prepared the $55 million facility for seven-days-a-week operations. Today’s formal ceremony, attended by Governor Peter Shumlin along with several of his commissioners, local officials, community members, and resort staff, celebrated the hotel’s official opening for daily operations.

    “We knew this was a missing piece to the success of this resort,” said Steve Olson, Chief Executive Officer of Leisure Hotel and Resorts, the management firm appointed to operate Burke Mountain on April 12 when the Securities and Exchange Commission placed the resort in federal receivership.  “We were amazed how finished the project was when we began managing the resort, but understood the timing of the opening would play a big role in reservations. Fall is not only big for foliage travelers, but also biking, hiking, weddings, and conferences as we are already seeing by the amount of rooms being booked.”

    That point was proven this past weekend when Burke Mountain Resort saw record-breaking (non-ski) revenue numbers and sold every available room in the Hotel Saturday evening over the Labor Day holiday weekend.   Over 140 people were toured Saturday afternoon during the community celebration and the feedback surrounding the weekend was positive.

    The 116-suite hotel is located just below the MidBurke Express quad and can accommodate over 450 guests a day. The new facility also features a day lodge complete with a restaurant, pub, coffee shop, retail store, and an arcade.

    “To see all of this come together feels so good” shares Jessica Sechler, Director of Marketing at Burke Mountain.  “Some of the staff including myself remember walking around this building in hard hats and orange vests visualizing what this building will become.  Now that we are open and seeing the results of all of our hard work payoff is something we’ll remember for a long time”.  

    With the Hotel now open daily, Burke Mountain has seen a steady increase in reservations over the next two months with some of its first ski & stay packages on the books.  Employment applications have also increased as more jobs become available. 

  • obienickobienick expert
    edited April 14 Posts: 759
    Raymond James agrees to pay an additional $145.5M to settle their portion of the suit to pay contractors and to refund investors.  Previously paid $4.5M to VT to settle State liability.

  • skipro77skipro77 intermediate
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    I wonder if Vail or Aspen have any money left to snatch up Jay.
  • obienickobienick expert
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    I think there's a lot more to go with this. Mont Saint Sauveur has been added to the investors' suit as they allegedly knew Q was planning on using the escrow money to buy the place and failed to do due diligence to see if Q really had independent funds. Stenger has made a deal with the State and fed civil suit, but Q is still liable and just fired his lawyer. Both still face criminal charges.
  • lotsoskiinglotsoskiing expert
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    This will be tied up in litigation for a very long time. I doubt they will have any serious buyers until things are settled and Q is behind bars. Too much baggage.
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