Ciscokid - Where was this t bar? Holiday Valley NY late '50s

ciscokidciscokid expert
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  • Posts: 1,130
    That looks like one of Whitecap’s old Halls
  • ciscokidciscokid expert
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    That looks like one of Whitecap’s old Halls

    Nope
  • SnowmasterSnowmaster advanced
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    Carinthia, where the heavy metal chair is now?
  • Posts: 1,130
    Those t’s are Roebling makes (the hangers give it away) but the towers and sheaves sure look like Hall.
  • dvadva novice
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    Looks vaguely like the old main T-bar at Snow Ridge in Turin, N.Y.!  However, the lodge design and position relative to the lift base look wrong, as does the small hill behind the parking lot, so........hmm.

    Those t’s are Roebling makes (the hangers give it away) but the towers and sheaves sure look like Hall.

    Pretty sure this is 100% Hall. Most very early Hall T-bar installs had those straight sided hanger
    arms as well. It seems like the crescent shaped arms were a later
    design, and got retrofitted onto earlier lifts at some
    point.
  • ciscokidciscokid expert
    edited May 17 Posts: 2,334
    No to all, my patience is strong

    As far as make or brand that's up to you guys to figure out.

    All I know is where and when.( no longer running, has been replaced)

    And Ted you stay out for now
  • Posts: 1,130
    My only other guess is that the lift make is a Constam, one of the later models. Hall borrowed and improved upon the Constam design following the patent expiration or Hall’s assumption of the patents, as I recall.
  • ciscokidciscokid expert
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    Move on to WHERE
    I don't know brand
  • JMaulJMaul advanced
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    You ski because even if you don't do it well, it's still a blast....
  • ciscokidciscokid expert
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    What's this new LIKE thing?
    I don't do facebook
  • Posts: 1,130
    That’s a Hall: the physical clues are too obvious.
  • ciscokidciscokid expert
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    Ok patience is thinning

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  • Posts: 1,130
    I think this just might be the old Hall t-bar at Holimont.
  • ciscokidciscokid expert
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    So so so close I think I'll award ibrake victory

    rhttps://www.holidayvalley.com/about/history/history/
  • Posts: 1,130
    Ah: it’s the old Tannenbaum t-bar at Holiday Valley
  • Posts: 1,130
    And that t-bar was a Hall!
  • ciscokidciscokid expert
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    Ted says all the lift towers are in my favorite turquoise aqua color!image
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  • ciscokidciscokid expert
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    Ah: it’s the old Tannenbaum t-bar at Holiday Valley

    Ted isn't that the Yodeler lodge?

    I'm trying to find a old HV trail map
  • ciscokidciscokid expert
    edited May 17 Posts: 2,334
    '57 was Yodeler t bar, '58 lower Tanenbaum
    ://www.holidayvalley.com/upload/photos/page_587_history_time_line.pdf


    https://www.holidayvalley.com/upload/photos/page_587_history_time_line.pdf
  • Posts: 1,130
    ciscokid said:

    '57 was Yodeler t bar, '58 lower Tanenbaum
    ://www.holidayvalley.com/upload/photos/page_587_history_time_line.pdf


    https://www.holidayvalley.com/upload/photos/page_587_history_time_line.pdf

    Whoops!
    :D
  • jaytremjaytrem advanced
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    Ahhh, very sneaky. Getting everybody excited for the proposed trip.
  • Posts: 1,130
    jaytrem said:

    Ahhh, very sneaky. Getting everybody excited for the proposed trip.

    Exactly. Guilty as charged, hmm Ciscokid? ;))
  • ciscokidciscokid expert
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    Yup I'm a big sneaker and yes I'm trying to sell a snowjournal gathering
  • JMaulJMaul advanced
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    Yup I'm a big sneaker and yes I'm trying to sell a snowjournal gathering
    That's why I posted the link to the get together that mentions Holiday Valley, unfortunately I couldn't link directly to a specific post so the thread loads with rbolger's bumper stickers. 

    Hence why I then posted a request to Bartholomew, our Admin, to look into that feature. I guess my sneaky ways were not noticed...
    :-/
    You ski because even if you don't do it well, it's still a blast....
  • TreillyTreilly advanced
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    ciscokid said:

    Ah: it’s the old Tannenbaum t-bar at Holiday Valley

    Ted isn't that the Yodeler lodge?

    I'm trying to find a old HV trail map
    Yes that is the Yodler Lodge
  • bmwskierbmwskier expert
    edited May 18 Posts: 558
    Tannenbaum-- that's the old Upper Area Warming Hut--- Cal, with the battle axe used to be the lift attendant. 

    The old Middle Chalet was two stories with a deck on the second story and the picnic area-- the Broken Ski Pub on the lower level. The parking lot to skier's right of the lodge in the photo stretched all the way down to just above the Middle Chalet and was connected by a small road that could be closed to keep people from sliding down into the stream by the old garage, where the Freestyle Center and Patrol Room are now. 

    The shack over that way is the top of the Sugar Plum Rope Tow as well. That had the coolest and most intricate base set up with the rope coming on high and going through a Rube Goldberg series of pulleys made out of old automobile rims until it dropped down to ground level to have you pulled out of your boots by the rope. It was FAST. 
    "Making ski films is being irresponsible with other people's money, in a responsible sort of way..." 
    Greg Stump
  • Posts: 1,130
    Rope tows like that I gotta see! Any in the Midwest using old rims forcing the rope in a serpentine series?
  • bmwskierbmwskier expert
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    The second Cisco is the new Main Lodge--- That's Cindy's Slope Quad in the foreground and Mardi Gras in the background going up skier's left. Buchan Ridge is behind. 

    Family friend used to own that land--- bought it in the fifties. Sat on it for years and years until a developer approached him in the 80's, Bud later showed me mother and father with  a grin one of the checks with two comma's in the figure!
    "Making ski films is being irresponsible with other people's money, in a responsible sort of way..." 
    Greg Stump
  • ciscokidciscokid expert
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    bmwskier said:

    Tannenbaum-- that's the old Upper Area Warming Hut--- Cal, with the battle axe used to be the lift attendant. 


    The old Middle Chalet was two stories with a deck on the second story and the picnic area-- the Broken Ski Pub on the lower level. The parking lot to skier's right of the lodge in the photo stretched all the way down to just above the Middle Chalet and was connected by a small road that could be closed to keep people from sliding down into the stream by the old garage, where the Freestyle Center and Patrol Room are now. 

    The shack over that way is the top of the Sugar Plum Rope Tow as well. That had the coolest and most intricate base set up with the rope coming on high and going through a Rube Goldberg series of pulleys made out of old automobile rims until it dropped down to ground level to have you pulled out of your boots by the rope. It was FAST. 
    bmwskier said:

    Tannenbaum-- that's the old Upper Area Warming Hut--- Cal, with the battle axe used to be the lift attendant. 


    The old Middle Chalet was two stories with a deck on the second story and the picnic area-- the Broken Ski Pub on the lower level. The parking lot to skier's right of the lodge in the photo stretched all the way down to just above the Middle Chalet and was connected by a small road that could be closed to keep people from sliding down into the stream by the old garage, where the Freestyle Center and Patrol Room are now. 

    The shack over that way is the top of the Sugar Plum Rope Tow as well. That had the coolest and most intricate base set up with the rope coming on high and going through a Rube Goldberg series of pulleys made out of old automobile rims until it dropped down to ground level to have you pulled out of your boots by the rope. It was FAST. 
    Bmwskier, hope you can make it in January, we will try to arrange the weekend around you and Woody and ibrake, hope you can show us around and reminisce and tell stories of the old days of yore at HV
  • bmwskierbmwskier expert
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    Absolutely! I will try and digitize all of the old super eight film I have from my parents taken when we were growing up that includes the old lifts, and other things we did as well. 
    "Making ski films is being irresponsible with other people's money, in a responsible sort of way..." 
    Greg Stump
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