T-bar Construction Race

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  • ciscokidciscokid expert
    Posts: 2,245
    Ahhh Le Relais!!

    Still say this corridor ranks with the best, certainly the operating ones
    Treilly said:

    https://liftblog.com/2017/11/09/why-t-bars-are-trending-again/


    I would love to see Caberfae Peaks put a T-Bar in their back country area 

    Treilly said:

    https://liftblog.com/2017/11/09/why-t-bars-are-trending-again/


    I would love to see Caberfae Peaks put a T-Bar in their back country area 

    I would love them to put in the Hall double and a tbar!
  • TomWhiteTomWhite expert
    Posts: 579
    Cisco and I must have seen this at the same time. I tried to set it up for copy n paste while he posted it. It doesn't fit 2.0 even w/o the many photos. It is worth the read on Liftblog.com.

  • TreillyTreilly advanced
    Posts: 287


    I would love them to put in the Hall double and a tbar!


    If what you were told is true I think you will see a Hall double
  • newpylongnewpylong expert
    edited November 2017 Posts: 659
    Whaleback.

    Picture from WB.
  • NELSAPNELSAP advanced
    Posts: 368
    Thanks for sharing the T-bar photo from Whaleback - it's looking great!
  • newpylongnewpylong expert
    Posts: 659
    Oops deleted the photo. here it is.
    20171116_094938.jpg
    1632 x 918 - 687K
  • obienickobienick expert
    Posts: 1,102
    newpylong, you work at Whaleback, right? Is there an estimated completion date?  
  • newpylongnewpylong expert
    Posts: 659
    Hoping to be inspected this week and 100% complete by 12/1.
  • Posts: 2,348
    newpylong said:

    Hoping to be inspected this week and 100% complete by 12/1.


    Good to hear, will it be the first part of the mountain open?
    - Sam
  • Posts: 1,105
    The WB t-bar sure has an interesting looking counter weight.

    I noticed that when the haul rope was spliced it want completely draped over the sheaves at the base terminal. Wonder why that was.

    IBRAKE
  • newpylongnewpylong expert
    edited November 2017 Posts: 659
    Keep in mind you cannot reinstall a 35 year old lift in the same state it was removed. It must be re-designed and refurbished to modern tramway standards. Furthermore when this lift was removed the legs were torched off.

    At splicing the counterweight was not installed and the sheaves were not aligned. If you are not there to observe the full sequence of events it is going to be a headscratcher.

    Yes the trails served off the T-bar will likely be opened first this year.
  • Posts: 1,105
    newpylong said:

    Keep in mind you cannot reinstall a 35 year old lift in the same state it was removed. It must be re-designed and refurbished to modern tramway standards. Furthermore when this lift was removed the legs were torched off.

    At splicing the counterweight was not installed and the sheaves were not aligned. If you are not there to observe the full sequence of events it is going to be a headscratcher.

    Yes the trails served off the T-bar will likely be opened first this year.

    Had no idea there are rules about reinstalling a used lift in the same state. How long has this been the case?

    I like that the traditional four legs of the box for a Hall t-bar isn’t a part of this installation. The two large metal tubes upholding the electric motor and and bottom bullwheel looks contemporary and smart. Same is true for the cylindrical counterweight.

    Sure wish WB had taken more pics and perhaps video of parts of the process. Never thought I’d witness an install of a Hall t-bar.

    Would you know if, when the lift runs, you’ll hear the same loud growling noise from the reducing gear above the bullwheel and if the summit bullwheel will make the clack-clack-clack from the anti reverse braking?

    IBRAKE
  • Posts: 2,348

    newpylong said:

    Keep in mind you cannot reinstall a 35 year old lift in the same state it was removed. It must be re-designed and refurbished to modern tramway standards. Furthermore when this lift was removed the legs were torched off.

    At splicing the counterweight was not installed and the sheaves were not aligned. If you are not there to observe the full sequence of events it is going to be a headscratcher.

    Yes the trails served off the T-bar will likely be opened first this year.

    Had no idea there are rules about reinstalling a used lift in the same state. How long has this been the case?

    I like that the traditional four legs of the box for a Hall t-bar isn’t a part of this installation. The two large metal tubes upholding the electric motor and and bottom bullwheel looks contemporary and smart. Same is true for the cylindrical counterweight.

    Sure wish WB had taken more pics and perhaps video of parts of the process. Never thought I’d witness an install of a Hall t-bar.

    Would you know if, when the lift runs, you’ll hear the same loud growling noise from the reducing gear above the bullwheel and if the summit bullwheel will make the clack-clack-clack from the anti reverse braking?

    IBRAKE

    I'm pretty sure he means the lift must be reengineered, not that there are rules regarding where the lift must be installed.
    - Sam
  • Posts: 1,105

    newpylong said:

    Keep in mind you cannot reinstall a 35 year old lift in the same state it was removed. It must be re-designed and refurbished to modern tramway standards. Furthermore when this lift was removed the legs were torched off.

    At splicing the counterweight was not installed and the sheaves were not aligned. If you are not there to observe the full sequence of events it is going to be a headscratcher.

    Yes the trails served off the T-bar will likely be opened first this year.

    Had no idea there are rules about reinstalling a used lift in the same state. How long has this been the case?

    I like that the traditional four legs of the box for a Hall t-bar isn’t a part of this installation. The two large metal tubes upholding the electric motor and and bottom bullwheel looks contemporary and smart. Same is true for the cylindrical counterweight.

    Sure wish WB had taken more pics and perhaps video of parts of the process. Never thought I’d witness an install of a Hall t-bar.

    Would you know if, when the lift runs, you’ll hear the same loud growling noise from the reducing gear above the bullwheel and if the summit bullwheel will make the clack-clack-clack from the anti reverse braking?

    IBRAKE

    I'm pretty sure he means the lift must be reengineered, not that there are rules regarding where the lift must be installed.
    D’oh! Of course: I took what he said waaaay too literally! ;)) ;)) ;))
  • Posts: 2,348
    mapnut said:

    That's great news that they got going so quick! It looks like the T-bar from Le Relais will go in next summer.
    - Sam
  • newpylongnewpylong expert
    edited November 2017 Posts: 659
    Video on Whaleback Facebook page of snowmaking but it shows the completed (largely) T-Bar. NH State inspection Friday.
  • Posts: 2,348
    newpylong said:

    Video on Whaleback Facebook page of snowmaking but it shows the completed (largely) T-Bar. NH State inspection Friday.


    Is there any projected opening date yet?
    - Sam
  • newpylongnewpylong expert
    edited December 2017 Posts: 659
    Update - 12/16 for all of T-Bar serviced trails (Lower Ivory, Blubber, Lower Face)
  • newpylongnewpylong expert
    Posts: 659
    Whaleback T-bar certified today.
  • edited December 2017 Posts: 1,105
    I wonder if the Whaleback Hall makes the same growling noise at the base station from the traditional reducing gear or is it not used. Also, does the summit bullwheel make the clacking noise from the old skool anti-reverse mechanism?

    IBRAKE
  • lotsoskiinglotsoskiing expert
    Posts: 1,134
    Is Burke's running yet?
  • TomWhiteTomWhite expert
    Posts: 579

    Is Burke's running yet?

    Their lift chart doesn’t even list the T-bar.
    Does that mean it is only available to the school? Well, that’s what I thought
    till I clicked on their snow report (see 2
    nd below). At least the
    public can use it when the main lift isn’t running. I looked at their trail map
    to get a hint. Well, they still list the poma, but the Willoughby Quad is
    removed. So the T-bar is running but I don’t know if it is regularly available
    to the public.

     







































    Lift Name

    Status

     

    JBar

     

    Magic Carpet

     

    Sherburne Express

     

    Willoughby Quad

     

    MidBurke Express

     

    Poma

     

     

    We will be giving the Mid Burke Express a chance to thaw
    from the past 48 hour artic freeze and plan for that lift to load at 10am.  Sherburne Express along with the T-bar will
    load on time, 9am to 4pm.  Just a
    reminder, all day tickets are available for purchase at our Sherburne Base
    Lodge guest services ticket window.


  • lotsoskiinglotsoskiing expert
    Posts: 1,134
    TomWhite said:

    Is Burke's running yet?

    Their lift chart doesn’t even list the T-bar.
    Does that mean it is only available to the school? Well, that’s what I thought
    till I clicked on their snow report (see 2
    nd below). At least the
    public can use it when the main lift isn’t running. I looked at their trail map
    to get a hint. Well, they still list the poma, but the Willoughby Quad is
    removed. So the T-bar is running but I don’t know if it is regularly available
    to the public.

     







































    Lift Name

    Status

     

    JBar

     

    Magic Carpet

     

    Sherburne Express

     

    Willoughby Quad

     

    MidBurke Express

     

    Poma

     

     

    We will be giving the Mid Burke Express a chance to thaw
    from the past 48 hour artic freeze and plan for that lift to load at 10am.  Sherburne Express along with the T-bar will
    load on time, 9am to 4pm.  Just a
    reminder, all day tickets are available for purchase at our Sherburne Base
    Lodge guest services ticket window.


    Just curious if it is being used. I had heard they had delays in construction.
  • ME2VTskierME2VTskier advanced
    Posts: 126

    Is Burke's running yet?

    December 23rd

    Burke
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