2017-18 World Cup

obienickobienick expert
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Seems to not yet be a thread on the WC for this upcoming season. If I missed it, merge if possible.

US Ski Team has been leaking the race suits today on Facebook. Here are some:

Travis Ganong modeling the men's alpine suits (I get a Captain America vibe):
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Julia Mancouso modeling the ladies' alpine suits (interesting as she hasn't raced since 3/7/15, hope this means her recovery is going well; I'd love to see her at the GS in Killington):
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Sadie Bjornsen modeling the unisex XC suit (Says USA vertically in red on the sleeves):
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  • obienickobienick expert
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    I got to say, these are completely 100% sexy. Much better than recent years' suits.  Only downfall is the best parts of the suits (the stars on the chest) will all be covered by bibs. 
  • rickbolgerrickbolger expert
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    Saw video of Steve Nyman make his first hesitant turns this weekend, he published on instagram if you're interested.   Regret I don't have a lot of hope that he'll be any kind of factor, sorry to say.   He is such a likable guy and was a very exciting skier.  Hope he can come back.  35 yrs old 


  • marcskimarcski advanced
    edited October 3 Posts: 210
    obienick said:

    I'm sure she is also shooting for thr Olympics. She always seem to rise the the occasion of the big races.
  • DrJeffDrJeff advanced
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    marcski said:

    obienick said:



    I'm sure she is also shooting for thr Olympics. She always seem to rise the the occasion of the big races.

    Not sure how successful she'll be this time around in her comeback attempt.... If one follows her social media feeds, it's easy to see that her training this time around has been far different, and looking like less strenuous than previous attempts.  I'm think that she's still her free spirit self, but maybe enjoying her now married life a bit more than her past ski racing life....
    marcski said:


    marcski said:

    Time will tell for Julia

  • obienickobienick expert
    edited October 27 Posts: 973
    USSST has listed the starters for Sölden 

    10/28 - Ladies
    Mikaela Shiffrin
    Lyndsey Vonn
    Forsete Peterson   ← World Cup debut, ex-Dartmouth skier
    Megan McJames

    10/29 - Men
    Ted Ligety
    Tommy Ford
    Sam DuPratt
    Hig Roberts
    David Chodounsky
    Ryan Cochran-Siegle
    Tim Jitloff

  • lotsoskiinglotsoskiing expert
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    Foreste is still on Dartmouth team
  • obienickobienick expert
    edited October 27 Posts: 973
    OK I stand corrected.  '93 birthday puts her at 24 so I assumed with her call up to the "bigs" she'd have finished college by now.  Do they redshirt in skiing?
  • lotsoskiinglotsoskiing expert
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    obienick said:

    OK I stand corrected.  '93 birthday puts her at 24 so I assumed with her call up to the "bigs" she'd have finished college by now.  Do they redshirt in skiing?

    Yep. 
  • obienickobienick expert
    edited November 13 Posts: 973
    35-year-old French skier speed specialist David Poisson died today in a training crash in Albeta ahead of the Lake Louise world cup.

  • rickbolgerrickbolger expert
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    sad news.
  • obienickobienick expert
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    Especially as this was probably going to be his last winter since it's an OWG year.
  • obienickobienick expert
    edited December 8 Posts: 973
    Big news on the ladies' front. Mikaela snatched up her first two WC DH podiums including a win (3rd Friday and won Saturday) as well as 5th in SG in Lake Louise last week. She's really stepping up her speed game. I hope she isn't peaking too early. Still a long ways to Peong Chang.

    Also Julia Mancusso will make her return to racing today in the St. Moritz Alpine Combined (which is a SG+SL one).
  • lotsoskiinglotsoskiing expert
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    Combined scratched today due to weather. Got SL in then no SG. Was pushed to Saturday, but latest is they are running only the regular SG on Saturday due to TV and prize money issues.
  • obienickobienick expert
    edited December 9 Posts: 973
    Julia Mancusso was last after the SL run at +7.99 seconds. Not bad for first race in nearly 3 years and you're not a technical skier.
  • lotsoskiinglotsoskiing expert
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    Super G Sunday, followed by combined slalom. Friday's combined slalom goes by the boards. SG Sunday counts as SG and as the SG part of the combined. 
  • obienickobienick expert
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    For WC points or FIS points? Usually the first AC run counts to FIS points
  • lotsoskiinglotsoskiing expert
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    obienick said:

    For WC points or FIS points? Usually the first AC run counts to FIS points

    From what I understand, the Super G they are running is both a stand-alone WC SG (for WC points) and the first run for a WC Alpine Combined. Slalom in afternoon is the second half of the combined.

    FIS points scored in all regardless, as is the case with all WC.
  • obienickobienick expert
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    Vonn reporting on Twitter her back seized up at gate 6. Still managed to finish 24th. In tomorrow's start list.

    What I don't understand why they just don't run two SG runs tomorrow. AM run for the AC and the PM for the scheduled SG.
  • lotsoskiinglotsoskiing expert
    edited December 10 Posts: 831
    obienick said:

    Vonn reporting on Twitter her back seized up at gate 6. Still managed to finish 24th. In tomorrow's start list.

    What I don't understand why they just don't run two SG runs tomorrow. AM run for the AC and the PM for the scheduled SG.

    Likely prize money and schedule. Schedule calls for 2 SG and a combined on the weekend, not 3 SG. I don't thin you can run 3 races of the same discipline on the same hill in one series. Or something silly like that...it is the FIS after all.
  • obienickobienick expert
    edited December 10 Posts: 973
    It was originally scheduled for one AC (using a SG as the speed part) and 2 SG. This has nothing to do with 3 of the same type of race on the hill.  Due to the weather, they bumped up the SL of the AC (normlaly the 2nd run) to the 1st run on Friday, but still couldn't get the SG part in.  

    As far as my reading of the ICR, combineds over multiple days are still permitted:

    "1101.3 If possible both runs should be held on one day (exceptions can only be
    decided by the Jury)."

    My point is, why not simply run the SG part of the combined as a makeup on either of the weekend days in addition to that day's normally scheduled SG?  There's plenty of time in the day for 2 SGs as SGs are only one run.  This way you're not deleting perfectly valid results from the SL run. Nor are you altering the SG standings by doubly counting a race.  TV is still showing both runs anyways. Just make them both SGs to finish off the AC and do the 2nd SG.
  • lotsoskiinglotsoskiing expert
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    obienick said:

    It was originally scheduled for one AC (using a SG as the speed part) and 2 SG. This has nothing to do with 3 of the same type of race on the hill.  Due to the weather, they bumped up the SL of the AC (normlaly the 2nd run) to the 1st run on Friday, but still couldn't get the SG part in.  


    As far as my reading of the ICR, combineds over multiple days are still permitted:

    "1101.3 If possible both runs should be held on one day (exceptions can only be
    decided by the Jury)."

    My point is, why not simply run the SG part of the combined as a makeup on either of the weekend days in addition to that day's normally scheduled SG?  There's plenty of time in the day for 2 SGs as SGs are only one run.  This way you're not deleting perfectly valid results from the SL run. Nor are you altering the SG standings by doubly counting a race.  TV is still showing both runs anyways. Just make them both SGs to finish off the AC and do the 2nd SG.
    I know the rules allow for it, but it was something related to the organizers and sponsors. There was some kerfuffle about TV and prize money. Not really sure.
  • lotsoskiinglotsoskiing expert
    edited December 10 Posts: 831

    obienick said:

    It was originally scheduled for one AC (using a SG as the speed part) and 2 SG. This has nothing to do with 3 of the same type of race on the hill.  Due to the weather, they bumped up the SL of the AC (normlaly the 2nd run) to the 1st run on Friday, but still couldn't get the SG part in.  


    As far as my reading of the ICR, combineds over multiple days are still permitted:

    "1101.3 If possible both runs should be held on one day (exceptions can only be
    decided by the Jury)."

    My point is, why not simply run the SG part of the combined as a makeup on either of the weekend days in addition to that day's normally scheduled SG?  There's plenty of time in the day for 2 SGs as SGs are only one run.  This way you're not deleting perfectly valid results from the SL run. Nor are you altering the SG standings by doubly counting a race.  TV is still showing both runs anyways. Just make them both SGs to finish off the AC and do the 2nd SG.
    I know the rules allow for it, but it was something related to the organizers and sponsors. There was some kerfuffle about TV and prize money. Not really sure.
    Clear as mud. Fog screwing things up today...
  • lotsoskiinglotsoskiing expert
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    Now the whole shebang has been cancelled due to fog and wind
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